what happens when AI replaces all our jobs?

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UBI isn't the solution to AI. I don't understand why anyone would expect the same ghouls that let AI take over the world for their own benefit would take any steps to protect us from the consequences of it, as if it wasn't done on purpose.
There won't be any need for Ubi or money. We will have all the things we need for free. Elon and Trump are going to change the world to a star trek utopia.
 

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Elon and Trump are going to change the world to a star trek utopia.
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UBI isn't the solution to AI. I don't understand why anyone would expect the same ghouls that let AI take over the world for their own benefit would take any steps to protect us from the consequences of it, as if it wasn't done on purpose.
Right. Not paying people is literally the point.
 

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For now it looks more like general AI stuff gets productized by third party developers around their APIs, so it's not completely concentrated wealth in those tech giants. At the same time, China is doing some killer stuff, and a Chinese company released a competitive LLM, trained a fraction of the traditional budget, and all open. Plus the typical employee set at those companies is traditionally all super left leaning. So I'm not super worried about this concentration of power in someone like Elon/Zuck/Bezos, etc.

My biggest concern in wealth concentration is more in the supply of hardware, especially robots. If you have robots replacing people's jobs, we don't all have access to these the way we do with software AI, so in the same way landlords buy up all the homes and force us to pay inflated rents, people who can afford robots up front may do so, and people who can't afford to do so would I guess have to compete in that labor market for a much smaller value than is typical.

Still I think in a system like the US, both parties would ultimately be united in more socialist policies in a post-AI world where yo ureally can't even pretend there is a meritocracy, when humans don't have the monopoly on that merit.

I think a four day work week would be a reasonable first policy, as there's a bit of precedent there... just with like, actual 4 days worth of total work
 

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More reading on the future big tech envisions. TL;DR pharmaceutical psychedelic soma, but I highly recommend at least browsing it. This is stuff real actual people with real actual power are talking about.

 

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What about our present situation makes anyone think that the 1% will look out for the rest of people and not just let everyone die while they wait it out from their bunkers?
Maybe our only hope is that AI becomes truly intelligent and doesn't do what the billionaires tell it to do or doesn't act like those dipshits?
 

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I was surprised to catch a fellow SSO-er (/ex-SSOer) mentioned in an AI newsletter I subscribe to:

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Why?

The dude was always looking for the next "big thing" to get in on the ground floor of and try to make as much money for as little effort as possible, and using AI is the logical extension of that.

Good to know he's admitting to his clients he is could be getting them better results but is willing to only go at best 75% of the way there so he can maximize his profit from their dime.
 

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Why?

The dude was always looking for the next "big thing" to get in on the ground floor of and try to make as much money for as little effort as possible, and using AI is the logical extension of that.

Good to know he's admitting to his clients he is could be getting them better results but is willing to only go at best 75% of the way there so he can maximize his profit from their dime.

Who do you think his clients are?
 

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Who do you think his clients are?

The only thing I've seen about this is the above, so obviously brides, and everyone knows "wedding" is a code word for "triple the cost of whatever we're providing/doing."

He also has the most generic company name I've seen, like, oh wow another company who went as vague as possible so when they enter a new market it seems impressive.
 

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The only thing I've seen about this is the above, so obviously brides, and everyone knows "wedding" is a code word for "triple the cost of whatever we're providing/doing."

He also has the most generic company name I've seen, like, oh wow another company who went as vague as possible so when they enter a new market it seems impressive.

"he's admitting to his clients he is could be getting them better results"

This sentence makes no sense. His company produces wooden flowers. He's using AI for marketing purposes. The clients get exactly the same flowers they've always made.

Regarding the name, he didn't found the company or name it. Take it up with whoever made the company first and then almost drove it into bankruptcy. Kinda irrelevant thing to criticize though.
 

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"he's admitting to his clients he is could be getting them better results"

This sentence makes no sense. His company produces wooden flowers. He's using AI for marketing purposes. The clients get exactly the same flowers they've always made.

Regarding the name, he didn't found the company or name it. Take it up with whoever made the company first and then almost drove it into bankruptcy. Kinda irrelevant thing to criticize though.

The way the article put the photos side by side makes it seem like he's doing wedding photos with his own product prior to them actually have it; which is why my assumption was that he's comping in a flower/dress and just sending them a 60-70% edited photo for whatever charge, and acting like they spent the same amount of effort they used to pre-AI. The big thing I've seen online lately is people using their own photo as a basis and basically drawing over it for AI to then generate the result of, so its not like it can't already do that if they have both the products picked out.

If this is just for his own purposes of putting them online on his website than go wild saving yourself money, not like everyone hasn't been predicting this sector being one of the biggest immediate losses to it.
 

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the Ghibli AI thing is abominable.

That was also funny -- I saw some artist on insta complaining because his career was based on drawing Ghibli style and now he's trying to talk about how AI is bad because it steals artists' styles...
 

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That was also funny -- I saw some artist on insta complaining because his career was based on drawing Ghibli style and now he's trying to talk about how AI is bad because it steals artists' styles...
His creative ethics might be questionable but he's not wrong.
 
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