You only get 5 extra notes on a 7 string.

[ShredmasterD]

Is there an echo in here?

looks like it. scrolling back i see it now. didn't see it before. the guy will enjoy views on his page.

 

[dmlinger]

Whats the title of that documentary?

A Trip To Infinity

 

[odibrom]

You'll have the same number of notes at your disposal as if you had a a fretless 6 stringer - "aleph-one". I think that means you need to get a fretless 9 stringer.

8 is my limit, I haven't tried 9ers, but there's no need when one recognizes one's limits, right? I'd love to have a go once at least, but I'm not in the "have to" get one... 7 is the balance, 6 and 8 are fun, but 7s are my thing...

However, how can I have the same amount of notes if I have more range?... woooo, mystery! Paradox!...

 

[TedEH]

Is there an echo in here?

If I use a delay, can I count each repeat as an extra note?

 

[BMFan30]

I think there are some folks that actually effectively use the extra bits of a 7 string. There are also lots of people who would be just as fine on a 6 or bari 6 and that's totally fine too.

Buh-butt the pitch ribbon on a Yamaha CS-80 isn't expressive enough for my dick beaters when I try doing pitch bends.

Amirite? or Amirite?
/unjerk

I have a 6 string bass and I have it so i can play just about any scale in one hand position inna middle of my neck and I've never in my life calculated how many extra notes I have or don't have.

/re-jerk
If I wanted unlimited notes then I'd Sheppard scale all my riffs in post.

Then only a straight jacket with sleaves tied above my rear end inna nut house will help me, if God won't take me out of that endlessly deceptive viagra loop controlled by an insecure shrimp dick that in reality; just won't grow but will still try to flex vertically.

 

[ShredmasterD]

while 6, 7, 8 and 9 string playes duke it out, 12 string players be like; can we just play a song? err.. get along?

 

[Emperoff]

8 is my limit, I haven't tried 9ers, but there's no need when one recognizes one's limits, right?

Same here with sevens. When I started playing I realized that the bands I liked had a lot of different tunings, from standard to drop A. So a 7 made sense to me to play whatever I wanted.

But 8 strings? I would need to find music I liked tuned below A to even think about it

 

[jephjacques]

while 6, 7, 8 and 9 string playes duke it out, 12 string players be like; can we just play a song? err.. get along?

nah they're too busy tuning

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

you only get 5 extra notes with this ratio

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

The difference in timbre between the same note on different strings can be as useful as extra notes imo.

My B string sounds fine up the neck of course the timbre of the note will be a bit different, but its completely usable and musical?

Yep. Playing higher notes and chords on higher frets on lower strings, vs lower frets on higher strings, can add some beef if it's needed. It's one reason why a lot of nu/alt, doom, stoner metal bands get such massive sounds; because they usually just ride the low strings as much as possible.
Want a tighter, clearer sound? Then fuck it, just go up a string.

 

[StevenC]

More than that, you have uncountable notes.

Stay with me for a second. Infinity implies that you can count how many, there is just no end to the counting, mathematicians call the size of an infinite set of countable numbers "aleph-naught". The concept of "aleph-one" is demonstrably bigger than infinity, because you can't even start counting (chose any "real number" and then try to count starting with the next real number). You have aleph-one notes!

That's not what any of that means.

Infinity doesn't imply countability because there are countable and uncountable infinities.

Aleph one describes an uncountable infinity. To say it's bigger than infinity makes no sense because it is infinity.

Uncountable infinities are "bigger" than countable infinities, but the word "bigger" has a different meaning in this context. The key point being that in two sets, say the reals R and the integers Z, you can systematically give a name to (count) every Z and but you can't give a name to every R. They both go on forever in both directions though so they both have infinity numbers in them. You can't do arithmetic with infinities for this reason and that is why "bigger" means a different thing here.

Similarly, Z and N both have countably infinite numbers, and both aleph-0, but Z contains approximately twice as many numbers. But since every Z can be mapped onto an N they have the same number of elements. Because 2 times infinity doesn't have any meaning.

Same with "size". You're using its set theory meaning while talking about something outside of set theory. Cardinality of infinite sets is not the same as size in the lay sense. There is a different number of elements in R and Z because Z is a subset of R, but again infinity plus x is the same as infinity, by definition, and what is being described here is an endless number.

All that is to say, uncountable notes is the same as infinity notes and this is some very bad maths.

Also "you have aleph-one notes" doesn't make any sense because that is not a number.

 

[narad]

Found the Abasi Concepts customer.

 

[ShredmasterD]

nah they're too busy tuning

you're not wrong
🤣

 

[odibrom]

... now we're getting somewhere, at least we're not talking bananas here, we're Math meth experts... eeerrr, damn spelling...

 

[jaxadam]

Aleph null bottles of beer on the wall
Aleph null bottles of beer
If one of those bottles should happen to fall
Aleph null bottles of beer on the wall

 

[eaeolian]

nah they're too busy tuning

You know what you call an in-tune twelve string?


Neither does anyone else.

 

[OmegaSlayer]

8 is my limit, I haven't tried 9ers, but there's no need when one recognizes one's limits, right? I'd love to have a go once at least, but I'm not in the "have to" get one... 7 is the balance, 6 and 8 are fun, but 7s are my thing...

However, how can I have the same amount of notes if I have more range?... woooo, mystery! Paradox!...

9 is the most affordable 30'-28' fanned fretboard available as a production model without busting the bank
And fret spacing is important for me because I feel my sausage fingers cramped with standard fretboards length

 

[Grindspine]

But with a barre chord on a seven, you can play seven SIMULTANIOUS notes!

 

[cindarkness]

You know what you call an in-tune twelve string?


Neither does anyone else.

In fact, it's quite simple.
First you tune all the normal E to E and then the weird octave strings something also E to E.

As long as you don't check the tuning afterwards, it's in tune. It's going to sound whack anyway so no one will notice.

 

[GuyB]

... so, you post in a web guitar forum specifically called SEVEN STRING, that is almost as old as Google, where many to most users play 7 string guitars regularly (if not daily) for several years already wouldn't know anything about this? What is your point/purpose in this communication?

I've mostly played 7 string for the last 10 years, tuned E,A,D,G,C,F,Bb, with a special high treble string.

I'm thinking of converting one of my 7 string guitars to a low string instead of a high treble.

My purpose in this post was asking fellow 7 stringers if it was worth changing for the extra 5 bass notes?

I'm nearly convinced, due to advantages in playing chords and positional playing, but I find 6 string much easier to play, having played guitar for over 45+ years.