Working with a Mesa MkV. Rambly thread of tweaking a bullshit (albeit great) amp
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HeHasTheJazzHands
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Nah I 100% think you'd get banned from TGP for that lolNow I get why he got banned. Trump jokes he said
I had started a thread that was effectively about the value of listening to mixes on a variety of sources.
I described my Hi-Fi speakers as "Lovely, but about as accurate as a would-be Trump Assassin"
2 days later I was banned.
God bless TGP.
FUCKERY FOR THE DAY
It's the weekend so I can do fuckery throughout the day.
I added a tiny bit more 2k and 6k and pulled out some 240. Opened things up a little more
Also tweaked the room Mic a little. I'm gonna acknowledge that these differences are pretty goddamn minor and probably in the catregory of "Shit only I will notice"
HOWEVER:
I felt like it was missing some teeth. Had a big sound, but nothing to attack the listener or jump out. So I added a 421
The 421 by itself sounds like absolute dogshit.
But when added, it blends pretty damn awesomely.
Here it is doule-tracked. The EMGs needed less gain and a bit more top.
I think we're at the point where the improvements I make (aside from adding the 421) are pretty goddamn inconsequential. So I'm pretty tempted to call it and say it's sorted.
It's the weekend so I can do fuckery throughout the day.
I added a tiny bit more 2k and 6k and pulled out some 240. Opened things up a little more
Also tweaked the room Mic a little. I'm gonna acknowledge that these differences are pretty goddamn minor and probably in the catregory of "Shit only I will notice"
HOWEVER:
I felt like it was missing some teeth. Had a big sound, but nothing to attack the listener or jump out. So I added a 421
The 421 by itself sounds like absolute dogshit.
But when added, it blends pretty damn awesomely.
Here it is doule-tracked. The EMGs needed less gain and a bit more top.
I think we're at the point where the improvements I make (aside from adding the 421) are pretty goddamn inconsequential. So I'm pretty tempted to call it and say it's sorted.
COOL.
Final version
This is just the 57. Bit thick in the low mids, but the rest of the signal chain appreciates it and I'm sure I could tame that with some EQ
Shifted the 421 to a little bit further off the speaker cone. Get a bit more upper mids rather than just all treble
Here's the Room Mic. It's a Mojave Audio MA300. Great mic. Works on everything.
Just the 57 and the Room mic. I think this is my favourite noise buuuut...
I quietly suspect that that 421 is gonna help it not get lost in the mix. I'll use as little as I can get away with but I wouldn't be surprised if in the mix, the 421 comes out in force.
https://soundcloud.com/blackhandaus...d&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
And here it is double-tracked.
Needs a bit of Low-Mid EQ (Obviously, it's metal guitar recorded with multiple mics) or probably just some Multiband Compression. Top end might need some work too, but I'm PRETTY happy with it and will call it "done"
Now then...
I have other amps. None of them are "as" dialed in as this MkV. The MkV is a bit of a unique beast that breaks brains. If an amp is going to drive you insane, the MkV is probably the correct choice.
People mentioned that they enjoyed this thread! COOL! I don't know what you enjoyed more. Taking the piss out of me, watching me go insane, taking the piss out of me FOR going insane (all of which were welcome) or if you enjoyed watching this process of me tweak an amp into oblivion with examples.
I'm not opposed to doing other threads for other amps? I learned a heap here and enjoyed doing this too. But few amps are as nonsensical as the MkV so the entertainment value could be lower.
Would people be opposed to other threads like this in the future where I go insane on other amps?
Final version
This is just the 57. Bit thick in the low mids, but the rest of the signal chain appreciates it and I'm sure I could tame that with some EQ
Shifted the 421 to a little bit further off the speaker cone. Get a bit more upper mids rather than just all treble
Here's the Room Mic. It's a Mojave Audio MA300. Great mic. Works on everything.
Just the 57 and the Room mic. I think this is my favourite noise buuuut...
I quietly suspect that that 421 is gonna help it not get lost in the mix. I'll use as little as I can get away with but I wouldn't be surprised if in the mix, the 421 comes out in force.
https://soundcloud.com/blackhandaus...d&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
And here it is double-tracked.
Needs a bit of Low-Mid EQ (Obviously, it's metal guitar recorded with multiple mics) or probably just some Multiband Compression. Top end might need some work too, but I'm PRETTY happy with it and will call it "done"
Now then...
I have other amps. None of them are "as" dialed in as this MkV. The MkV is a bit of a unique beast that breaks brains. If an amp is going to drive you insane, the MkV is probably the correct choice.
People mentioned that they enjoyed this thread! COOL! I don't know what you enjoyed more. Taking the piss out of me, watching me go insane, taking the piss out of me FOR going insane (all of which were welcome) or if you enjoyed watching this process of me tweak an amp into oblivion with examples.
I'm not opposed to doing other threads for other amps? I learned a heap here and enjoyed doing this too. But few amps are as nonsensical as the MkV so the entertainment value could be lower.
Would people be opposed to other threads like this in the future where I go insane on other amps?
Jon Pearson
SS.org Regular
Yeah do more of these. Definitely beats the YouTube guys dropping a video link and running away.
