Will ESP and ESP/LTD guitars get SS frets next year???

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  1. Fierce_Swe

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    What do you think? SS fret is the new "in thing" (is that the right word??? :p )
    I'm saving money for a six string guitar with fixed bridge to be my main recording axe and I noticed that I wear down frets somewhat fast. I have a bunch of Ibanez guitars that I really like and I have been watching the 5121 a bit.
    But want an ESP (E-II or LTD 1000-series) but I want SS frets because I have to refret some others the coming years so a guitar that woluld have them from start would be nice.

    So do you think ESP will add som SS equiped models next year? ( I know some of their US models have but the are very expenisve and hard to get in the EU)
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    Nope, not everyone likes ss frets and it will bump up production cost too.

    If you have guitars that need a refret soon why not just refret those with ss frets?
     
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    ESP has definitely fallen behind the curve on adding SS frets. I personally won't buy a guitar anymore without SS. The way they feel when playing and the durability is such an improvement. It's sad to see ESP, Ibanez and PRS selling $1-$2k+ guitars that still have nickel frets. Kind of a joke considering Schecter and Kiesel offer SS on guitars right at or under the $1k mark.
     
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    I wouldn’t say they’re falling behind at all. They have SS, just at a price point that people don’t want to spring for.

    As said above, SS frets aren’t necessarily an “upgrade”, there is a definite preference. Not everyone wants the super slick feel, and some feel that the sound is a bit tinny. I personally don’t care one way or the other, but nickel frets aren’t inherently inferior.
     
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    There will always be a population that sticks with what they know and what they're used to. That being said, look at Kiesel Guitars. SS frets come STANDARD on all of their guitars. They bet their business on the notion of SS being superior and that user adoption won't be an issue.
     
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    And yet SS frets are in probably .01 percent of guitars being made.

    I’m sure ESP are selling guitars just fine without going through the expense of adding SS frets to everything. I’d even bet that if the small amount of customers that “absolutely need” SS frets came over to ESP, it wouldn’t be worth the effort involved for them to bump up all lines to SS.

    Kiesel are pushing the super modern guitar angle, and part of that is set around specific specs, including SS frets.
     
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    Hey, ESP doesn't need me. That being said, SS is continuing to become more of an expectation from players and I would assume more and more people will be asking for/demanding them.
     
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    Yup. More ss frets. Not that big of an upgrade cost and no refrets ever is amazing. Climb aboard, ESP
     
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    yeah and how much business does Kiesel do compared to ESP? :rofl:
     
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    I would hope so. At this point it’s a requirement for me. I’ve held off on buying some really nice guitars from them because I cant afford going US Custom shop to get stainless. Let’s keep our eyes crossed.
     
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    Wow man, very fair comparison there. Definitely apples to apples.
     
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    I’m not saying they aren’t awesome, just answering OP’s question. I don’t think ESP will make a big push for them, because they don’t need to.
     
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    As much as I love SS fretted guitars, it would be sad to see the production lineups price go up because of SS frets. I would personally prefer to leave that option to CS models or another brand (ie. Suhr, Anderson).
     
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    It's like $30.
     
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    I doubt that. They’ll mark it as a “premium upgrade” and tack on an extra hundo.
     
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    That's a good point. That kind of upcharge would be annoying.
     
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    That’s kinda what the premiums are, or even the prestige uppercuts. They have a different set of pups in, SS frets but cost way over what the next guitar with similar specs is.
     
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    Who really expect SS frets besides the bubble of this forum? Even on Schecter fanpages i've seen, the SS frets aren't much of an attention grabber as the finishes and pickups and whatnot. Besides some other super-small Facebook pages in a similar demographic as this place, this is literally the only place I've seen people go "SS or bust".
     
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    I know we're a minority, but we exist and we're growing.
     

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