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The weird fortnight-looking-foam-Splatoon kinda hurt my old-man-gamer soul. I'm sure it'll have an audience, and some people will enjoy it, but I also know it is not for me.
 

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The weird fortnight-looking-foam-Splatoon kinda hurt my old-man-gamer soul. I'm sure it'll have an audience, and some people will enjoy it, but I also know it is not for me.
I wouldn't bet on it. Square is really, really good at chasing trends by making slavish imitations that then bomb spectacularly and have their servers shut down embarrassingly fast. I think anyone that knows anything about gaming news is going to be extremely hesitant to buy into a Square "live service" game after their last couple years of history.

I skimmed through the list of game reveals. Two jumped out at me:

DRAGON'S DOGMA 2. The first has some of the best, most unique action RPG combat ever and if this game can make the story even remotely interesting OR go in the direction of the fantastic DLC for the first game (Bitterblack isle, it's included with most versions of the game that have come out the last few years) this might end up my game of the year whenever it comes out. Plus Capcom's really had a good track record compared to most other major third-party publishers recently.

Marathon. I used to play the shit out of Marathon Infinity (3) on my parents' old beast of a 120 mhz powermac and use its modding tools, Forge and Anvil, ALL the time. I played 1 and 2 a bit and I do respect them for trying really hard to introduce more creative level design and story through text terminals and stuff which you didn't get in FPS games back then. So, I'm definitely curious to see what this is. I definitely saw a S'phht in that trailer or whatever they were called, but the rest of the trailer made it look like...Splatoon. Which the original games most definitely were not. Though they were great multiplayer shooters for the time and had some cool game modes that were a few years ahead of their time like Kill the Man with the Ball. Unfortunately word has it this is an "extraction shooter" which sounds like a combination of things I hate (multiplayer only looter shooter where you lose loot permanently if you die).

I don't really give a shit about Spider-Man 2 cause I didn't like the first much, still haven't played Alan Wake and have been warned it's quite boring compared to Control (which I did like) but wouldn't play this one without playing it first. Final Fantasy 16 I'll wait for reviews on but sounds moderately promising in a "I'll buy this when it's bundled with all of its overpriced DLC in a year or two" sort of way.
 

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I think anyone that knows anything about gaming news is going to be extremely hesitant to buy into a Square "live service" game after their last couple years of history.
I don't think the game is targeting people who follow gaming news that closely - the demographic of people playing trendy flashy hero-based live-service games is huge, and the general niche of Splatoon has been console-locked to the Switch for long enough that I think there's going to be a lot of people trying it out. I think there's a good chance that some will enjoy it before it dies, as long as it's not an awful NFT-ridden mess or something.
 

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I'm almost certainly biased, but I don't think the weird playstation handheld is a bad idea IF it ends up being inexpensive - I can see where it's coming from, I think. Streaming and handhelds are getting popular again, so it's basically a first-party version of the Backbone controller and a stopgap before what feels to me like an inevitable Vita revival. That's my best guess. If it's cheap and can stream while outside of the same wifi (aka. you can use it outside the home, albeit by eating a lot of data I guess?) then it would feel more to me like a switch than a Wii U, if we're going to make the Nintendo comparison.

There's speculation that it'll be between $200 and $300 -- seems about right, but is also really expensive for solely being a streaming thing IMO. You still gotta have the PS5 on top of it.
 

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I don't see any good reason for that unless you only have one TV in the house and your family is always tying it up when you want to play! In that case if you don't have the space for a new TV yet have 300 dollars to blow and also have extremely robust Wifi I could see it being useful I guess. I can't see myself ever being tempted!
 

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In that price range I think it would have to work on mobile data, or across another network or something to be really interesting, I guess. I like the idea or novelty of streaming a game completely outside of the home, but if it's only for at home on the same network, then that's a lot of money for an "I don't want to pause while I'm on the can" option. I'll admit that might be my favorite feature of the Switch though.
 

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For that kind of money I’d go for a Steam Deck, honestly. Maybe there’s (or there will be) even a way you can stream Playstation games to it? Perhaps if you install Windows and Remote Play, I don’t know.

In any case, I’d rather spend the money on something else. Or you can always wait for it to be a commercial failure and buy it for half the money.
 

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Oh, yeah: Dragon’s Dogma 2. I loved the first one, can’t wait to play a new entry.

It was like a weird Skyrim / Monster Hunter hybrid. Maybe with a pinch of Dark Souls too.

Anyways, it was a quirky and weirdly fun game.
 

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Finished Persona 4 Golden. I can see why it's considered a classic of the genre. Persona 5 Royal is still king to me, but this was fantastic. Even if the final portion... Hmm...
So it was the random gas station clerk you run into once in the beginning, and you only even find that out by doing a very specific set of tasks on the last day and is very missable. Got it.
 

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Been playing Rage 2 quite a bit. Combat is surprisingly great. I'm a Doom fan, and with the added super powers i've been enojoying it even more than Doom.
The open world is visually pretty great. If they had done more with that aspect the game would have been amazing, but driving around in it, the inhabitants behave in a way that makes it sorta feel like you're in a theme park rather than a dangerous world. Enemy vehicles will shoot at you briefly if you bump into or scrape past them, but that's about all that happens while driving. You don't get chased or purposefully attacked. If they had included Fallout-style random encounters, it'd improve the game so much. Still a fun game just for the standard combat though.

Looking forward to playing the Sytem Shock remake soon. I backed the Kickstarter way back in 2016, which seems like a pretty bonkers amount of time now.
 

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I had a few days off and finished Yakuza 6. I loved it, no complaints. Maybe a bit lacking in the substories department? Maybe.

I liked the story almost as much as YZ's. Graphics are good (for a Yakuza game), YK2 level (obviously), everything's cool. Really liked the characters, and story. I think nobody died this time? Nobody I liked, at least.

This one is another one I'd replay sometime, like YZ / YK2 / YK1. No, not Y5... but only because it's too damn long.

Anyway, there's still plenty of Yakuza games to play. I'm already starting to understand some japanese.
 

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I had a few days off and finished Yakuza 6. I loved it, no complaints. Maybe a bit lacking in the substories department? Maybe.

I liked the story almost as much as YZ's. Graphics are good (for a Yakuza game), YK2 level (obviously), everything's cool. Really liked the characters, and story. I think nobody died this time? Nobody I liked, at least.

This one is another one I'd replay sometime, like YZ / YK2 / YK1. No, not Y5... but only because it's too damn long.

Anyway, there's still plenty of Yakuza games to play. I'm already starting to understand some japanese.

6 was considered a big letdown because of how it immediately writes Haruka out, despite the relationship between her and Kiryu being the heart of the series since 1. That, and the gigantic decrease in substories and mini games. Not to mention only one playable character. What’s there is ok, it just was not a good capper to the Kiryu story from a dramatic standpoint. It’s more of a standalone story than any of the other sequels.

I need to play it again, it was the third one I played.
 

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6 was considered a big letdown because of how it immediately writes Haruka out, despite the relationship between her and Kiryu being the heart of the series since 1. That, and the gigantic decrease in substories and mini games. Not to mention only one playable character. What’s there is ok, it just was not a good capper to the Kiryu story from a dramatic standpoint. It’s more of a standalone story than any of the other sequels.

I need to play it again, it was the third one I played.

Yeah, I don’t care much about Haruka to be honest… she feels more like a plot device so Kiryu has to do or feel something than a character to me, but I know most people like her.

Having many playable characters was fun sometimes, but it was also kind of overkill to me. A bit tiring. It usually complicated the story, too. I prefer something simpler.

It would be funny if they kept increasing the number of playable characters following the game’s current number (4 for Y4, 5 for Y5, until you have to play as everyone living in Kamurocho) :lol:

Yeah, there are less mini games (I don’t mind, but most people love them) and substories (booooh, I want more).

I really liked the story and characters. Kind of straightforward, not many plot twists (for once!).

It’s a shame there’s little of Majima / Saejima this time though. But that contributed to the plot straightforwardness I think.

So, um, I loved the game. I know I’m right! Everybody else is wrong and should like it too!
 

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It would be funny if they kept increasing the number of playable characters following the game’s current number (4 for Y4, 5 for Y5, until you have to play as everyone living in Kamurocho) :lol:

Word on the development during Y4 was that Kiryu was meant to have been out of the picture by then, and RGG studios had already planned to have new potential protagonists to the fold. You can tell since Kiryu doesn't really do much outside of 'just being there' in that game.

Y6 has the same issue as Y3 of feeling like a step back to exercise what they can do with the new engine, since every subsequent game after them shows a lot more confidence in putting more features. I do appreciate Y6 being a more focused, smaller scale affair, it captures an authentic J-Drama atmosphere more than any other game (Lost Judgment also captures this but a much grander plot).
 

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Pre-ordered Street Fighter 6 against my better judgement lol. So I will be playing that this weekend!
 

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Word on the development during Y4 was that Kiryu was meant to have been out of the picture by then, and RGG studios had already planned to have new potential protagonists to the fold. You can tell since Kiryu doesn't really do much outside of 'just being there' in that game.

Y6 has the same issue as Y3 of feeling like a step back to exercise what they can do with the new engine, since every subsequent game after them shows a lot more confidence in putting more features. I do appreciate Y6 being a more focused, smaller scale affair, it captures an authentic J-Drama atmosphere more than any other game (Lost Judgment also captures this but a much grander plot).
I remember thinking the story jumped the shark when a big sci-fi battleship shows up in the last act!! Kinda blew up the idea of "small intimate" Yakuza game which the rest does a pretty good job of doing. I liked that pub talk minigame, it reminded me of that sappy show on Netflix "Midnight Diner: Tokyo Stories" or whatever. I think that was it? I watched a couple episodes when I was in Japan and I thought it took place in Osaka but the plot description of this show makes me think that's what I was watching.

And yeah Y6 to Kiwami 2 is very much the same deal as Yakuza 3 to 4. They had a new engine and were being careful with it, then the next game is a gigantic leap forward in terms of complexity.

Yeah, I don’t care much about Haruka to be honest… she feels more like a plot device so Kiryu has to do or feel something than a character to me, but I know most people like her.

Having many playable characters was fun sometimes, but it was also kind of overkill to me. A bit tiring. It usually complicated the story, too. I prefer something simpler.

It would be funny if they kept increasing the number of playable characters following the game’s current number (4 for Y4, 5 for Y5, until you have to play as everyone living in Kamurocho) :lol:

Yeah, there are less mini games (I don’t mind, but most people love them) and substories (booooh, I want more).

I really liked the story and characters. Kind of straightforward, not many plot twists (for once!).

It’s a shame there’s little of Majima / Saejima this time though. But that contributed to the plot straightforwardness I think.

So, um, I loved the game. I know I’m right! Everybody else is wrong and should like it too!
You can call her a plot device if you wanted, but Kiryu's relationship to her still was a big part of what defined his character. Actually turning her into a static plot device and taking away her voice felt bad.

The story and characters are fine, maybe even good, I just think if you're doing "LAST ENTRY IN THE SERIES" that you should maybe use the major characters that have been really vividly established over the previous 5 games. Majima and Saejima were basically a cameo if I remember right. I don't even remember if Akiyama or Daigo or Date were in it (partly cause I didn't know them at this point, having only played 0 and 1 before it). Haruka's in it almost exclusively via flashbacks. Etc. Instead we get shrieking "Aniki!!!" man, the girl he has a crush on, and Beat Takeshi (who was in it WAY more than I thought he would be, but also casting an actor that big made it seem very likely he'd turn out to be a super bad guy). I think they were all varying levels of endearing and the story's fine, but I think it would have been much better-liked if it was that story in like, Yakuza 3 and not that story as YAKUZA: FINAL CHAPTER.
 
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