US Political Discussion: Trump Administration Edition (Rules in OP)

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  1. Drew

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    I think that's all well and good with opinion/editorial content.

    I think where you get into trouble is when "news" personas start pushing factually inaccurate stories as if they are true. I'd love to say it's just Alex Jones and his "Sandy Hook was a hoax" stuff, but even Fox has fallen down pretty badly in this respect, going as far as being sued by Seth Rich's family for running their - disproven - story that he was murdered for leaking internal emails to Wikileaks and that it wasn't Russian hackers, and even after Fox redacted it, Hannity continued to stand behind the story. Shit like that crosses a line from editorial content and arguing interpretations, to trying to get the viewing public to believe falsehoods for political gain. The former is necessary for a healthy democracy, the latter is extremely destructive to it.

    I'm with Randy, some sort of return of the Fairness Doctrine would go a long way here, though it would take some work to figure out how to apply it to social media.
     
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    Nooooo shit. :lol:
     
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    You might believe this is one of jaxadams fakes... but...

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    There is that theory that the moon was the result of a collision between Earth and a Mars-sized object, but what are the chances that he references something like that on purpose?
     
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    Precisely why politicians should never set the focus and priorities of public scientific agencies!!
     
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    Funnily enough, I belive that Trump's tweet denigrating going to the moon was due to Fox broadcasting about Trump's previously announced Moon initiative, immediately before Trump tweeted.

    That's right. Trump is so stupid and incompetent that he forgot that the nitiative was his, and so he criticized his own stated idea.

    That's why people who think in a straightforward manner laugh at the knots Trump supporters tie themselves into trying to defend the self-inflicted errors. *laugh*

    Carry on!
     
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    I usually hate political memes but hue hue hue:

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    Don’t know if anyone saw, but John Dean is testifying before Congress today. Quite willingly, or as he put it, “No subpoena needed!”
     
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    Not sure what he's there for...? I guess to draw parallels between Nixon and what he saw about Trump in the Mueller Report?
     
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    Yeah, it seems Congress is just looking for some advice/justification/rationalization for impeachment proceedings. He has no power, or anything.
     
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    While I for one am glad to see tariffs NOT being imposed on imports from Mexico, Trump's "deal" he negotiated is a load of BS - the centerpiece of the "deal" is something Kristjen Nielsen had already negotiated with them back in December, and Trump was either unaware, or just looking to save face.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/...=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer

    Also, Mexico has confirmed that Trump's twitter allusions to some still-secret aspect of the deal are also bullshit:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/10/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
     
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    Yeah, that there's no legal repercussions for doing that as long as you win. So the guy's right.

    Would be kinda funny for this to blow up in his face when his opponent ends up getting their hands on his pee pee tapes.
     
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    ^The release of the pee tape would be good for all sides, really. If the tape was a basis for blackmail, then that's over. We'd get to have our laugh. Half of the country would suddenly be more open to kink. Evangelicals would find some way to spin it as a type divine anointing. A watershed moment for our country.
     
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    FTFY
     
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    Just as the aurelian streets of heaven are so adorned, so too shall we be sanctified by the glory of his golden shower.
     
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    The OSC is in a weird place - they're able to identify ethics violations and make recommendations, but they're powerless to actually take action themselves, instead referring the matter to the White House. And, since this atmosphere of corruption starts right at the top, there's nothing they can actually do no matter how much Conway uses her office for campaign purposes, because Trump thinks federal officials SHOULD be able to use their power to campaign for him.

    The Trump administration has already exposed some holes in the system of checks and balances - for one, the fact that Congress has the power to subpoena, but it's unclear what power they have to enforce subpoenas. This is another prime example. Sometime after Trump we're going to need to sit down and figure out how to improve the process so the checks and balances can work as intended. That or we're going to have to wait for the Supreme Court to weigh in.
     
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    Guys, he said Prince of Whales
     
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    Donald Trump consistently says the most absolutely retarded shit every single time he opens his mouth.
     
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