Tips on intonating the low B?

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  1. elkoki

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    I've never been able to perfectly intonate the low B it seems. I've had this on every 7 string I've owned more or less.

    I'll intonate the open note with the 12 fret but when I play a B chord it still sounds off . What I've been doing is tuning it by ear to the E string and it sounds in tune that way . Until you actually check the pitch of the low B and you see its super flat . What am I doing wrong ?
     
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    MaxOfMetal Likes trem wankery. Super Moderator

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    What are you using to tune? Have you tried intonating at a lower fret?

    Using the 12th fret/12th harmonic is more of a suggestion than a rule. Ideally you'd intonate where you'll be playing the most.
     
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  3. elkoki

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    Using the Guitar Rig 5 tuner. I actually didnt think of intonating to a lower note. I will try that.
     
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    Fortin Worship Active Member

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    I have this problem too on 7 strings. I almost always end up tuning the low B or A a tiny bit flat so it sounds good when i fret it. It might actually be in key strummed open too considering striking the string makes it go sharp a little.
     
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    I find I end up tuning the low B just the tiniest bit flat too, but not so much because of intonation being off, more to compensate for how a strong pick attack pulls everything sharp.
     
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    Some guitars just don't intonate well. I've a USA Schecter that had problems all over the fretboard. The solution was a compensated nut which sorted nearly every fret out. If varying setups and tweaks don't work then it's the next option.
     
  8. elkoki

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    This is actually what I've been doing forever . For some reason the low E and B always sound better tuned a little flatter maybe like 9-10 cents flatter. I'm OK with that but where I get confused is : what should intonate it to ? seems I'm tuning flat anyway ? Make the 12 fret slightly flat too or tuned to pitch ?
     
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    Intonation is always a compromise. Getting the action as low as you can with little to no buzzing will help, but maybe another option could be a compensated nut?
     
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    Bad method, as that assumes the open note is in tune with the frets, it often isn't due to witness point, nut slot height, nut compensation etc. Use a tuner and observe the pitches as you play the open note and every commonly-played fret, then adjust the saddle for the optimum results (it will almost never be perfect).
     
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    Too short scale length, too thin strings.
     

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