The Tube Thread

Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by DrakkarTyrannis, May 13, 2009.

  1. The Scenic View

    The Scenic View GARBAGE DAY!!!!!!!!!

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    Stock Mesa Mark V with Mesa 6L6 and 12AX7. I just popped in a quad of EHX EL34's that a friend loaned me, and the amp just came to life! Night and day difference, imo. I've done reading and apparently Mesa's come with a bias between 25 and 30 mA (supposedly the V is the hottest out of all Mesa guitar heads in current production), and some tubes some rated at 33 mA. Is this alright for the amp, or will I face trouble down the road? Also, what EL34's would you guys recommend for my amp? It runs into a Mesa Stiletto 4x12, and the noise comes from a Schecter Blackjack ATX C8 tuned to drop F# (whole tone up from drop E). I like the EHX's, but I'm curious to know what else is good!
     
  2. HeHasTheJazzHands

    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    I'm wondering if anyone here has tried an E34L amp in a high-gain EL34-loaded amp like a Peavey 6534+ or 3120? The specs for an E34L sound like they're too my liking.
     
  3. rob_707

    rob_707 but will it Bethesda?

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    im curious to what would be better for tubes in my amp, i play metal and i just got a bugera 6262, it has 4 6L6 tubes and 6 12Ax7 tubes in it.
    would the amp sound better if i put 4 EL34's and a better type of 12AX7's in it?
     
  4. The Scenic View

    The Scenic View GARBAGE DAY!!!!!!!!!

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    You could try putting 34's in, if that's your flavor. Maybe try a different brand of 6L6's before hop ship, since there are lot's of good 6L6's out there. Also, depending on your needs, you could look into mix-matching 12AX7 brands, since each tube is different from one another. Two great places to get tubes from would be eurotubes.com and thetubestore.com. :yesway:
     
  5. Mordacain

    Mordacain 1-watt brigadier

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    The SED =C= (winged C) are amazing in both EL34 and 6L6 derivatives. I also really like the TAD EL34. Another thought might be the JJ 6CA7.
    They are a bit like an EL34 / 6L6 hybrid.

    You can get them spec'd for Mesa bias range at either www.thetubestore.com - Your online source for audio vacuum tubes. or eurotubes.
     
  6. rob_707

    rob_707 but will it Bethesda?

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    ok thanks that sounds good, the sound im looking fore is clarity more then anything i play "djenty" style stuff
     
  7. Carvinkook

    Carvinkook SS.org Regular

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    Im a BIG TungSol fan..they just seem a little less harsh than the JJ's,, less high end fizz more smoothness in my crizz
     
  8. rick_fears

    rick_fears SS.org Regular

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    Anybody swapped out the tubes in a laney ironheart?
     
  9. ErkerAsylum

    ErkerAsylum SS.org Regular

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    Time for new Power amp tubes in my Carvin V3. It can be ran at 50W as well as 100. I've always ran it at 100 but i think i might start running at 50w with just the 2 tubes. EL34 is what it came with and what I'm sticking with.

    I've never changed tubes before, anything in particular I need to know before I switch these out? thanks in advance
     
  10. clay

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    I just heards this shredder x tube screamer by revolts amps, was very crunchie and very clean tone.think the dude was use emgs ,nice cut threw
     
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    clay Member

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    Try that shredder x tube screamer by revolt. i belive its a sonny lombardozzi signature,was very clean gain
     
  12. glytch5

    glytch5 Necron Overlord

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    In my orange DT i'm using JJ 12ax7s and the EL84s. I have tried chinese 12ax7s (sino) in my V1 and v2, liked the JJ better. The difference was very slight but I did discover a HUGE difference when using a certain sleeper tube.

    I know you can buy matched phase inverter tubes from Eurotubes, or even tube depot but, I tried to the groove tubes 12ax7s matched phase inverter and HOLY COW it sounds fantastic.
    It is a chinese sino tube, but I think the current/triodes must be perfectly matched. Perhaps JJ tubes do not make good sounding phase inverters I do not know.
    If you have access to the GT SAG 12ax7 give it a try in your phase inverter. It really warmed up my amp. For clean/crunch settings it was very noticeable, and with my baritone tuned way down, the low notes had a bit more definition with high gain.

    For v1 and gain stages, I prefer tube depot, they have JJ 12ax7 sales all the time, I just order them for high gain+low noise microphonics.
    I would suggest trying a simple sino 12ax7 in V1 also just for fun. They do have some bite to them!
     
  13. nlaplante

    nlaplante SS.org Regular

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    I put TAD 6L6GC-STR in my IRT60H. Way better than the stock Ruby's.

    In the preamp here's my config:

    V1: JJ ECC83S
    V2: Ruby stock (chinese)
    V3: Tung-Sol 12AX7 reissue
    V4: Sovtek 12AX7-LPS

    Sweet sounding!!!
     
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    I can't believe that people actually play digital. You wouldn't catch me playing digital unless I was homeless.
     
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    t_rod SS.org Regular

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    Replaced the EHX's in my 6505 with Mullard shortplates for V1 and V2 and tungols for V3-5. Much less fizz, microphonics, and hum plus lots more useable gain. Sounds frickin massive.
     
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    nlaplante SS.org Regular

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    With you on this. But, digital > tube amp played NOT loud
     
  17. guitarxtc

    guitarxtc SS.org Regular

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    +1
     
  18. guitarxtc

    guitarxtc SS.org Regular

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    You must try Engl amps at low volume ;)
     
  19. Jacksonluvr636

    Jacksonluvr636 SS.org Regular

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    And my Ultra Lead sound brutal at low volume. Yes sounds better cranked but I would put it up against any SS amp at bedroom level.

    Back OT:

    I just got the UL and it has JJ6l6g's for the Power amp and all stock VHT branded (chinese) 12ax7's. My UL has the 12AU7 for the drive stage however and a KT88 switch.

    I am lead to believe all preamp tubes are stock from 1994 :scream:. I threw in some kind of Baldwin in the 12AU7 slot and honestly it sounds "newer" if that makes any sense, nothing more. Not much difference there as expected.

    I do have some JJ KT88's that I will throw in there soon and will be buying some 12ax7's to mess around with.

    I really want some Ruby Black Plates or something as nice as I can get without spending $1k on a single TF803s.

    I will definitely report back once I get everything situated.

    It is sounding great now with the 6l6 but I am anxious to hear it with the KT88. If that goes well I will probably end up getting some =C= KT88 or maybe even 6550.
     
  20. FILTHnFEAR

    FILTHnFEAR I too, know what it's like to lose...

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    My 100-watt Hughes & Kettner sounds fantastic at low volumes. Gotta love power amps.
     

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