The EB MusicMan 7 Club

Discussion in 'Sevenstring Guitars' started by Norstorm, Apr 26, 2011.

  1. Jonathan20022

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    Link the ones that show the problem, I'm interested in seeing them for myself. I've looked through this entire thread over the years and haven't noticed that myself.
     
  2. Jake

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    In the photo I posted mine looks like it's too close, but as Jonathan noted with his post it's just a strange optical illusion pretty much. Still have plenty of space up there. Is it less than some of my other guitars? Sure. But it's not that big of a difference.
     
  3. Remster

    Remster SS.org Regular

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    in this thread:

    Post #23, #49,#53(the 7 string on the right), #55, #125, #230, #276, #282, #284


    elsewhere:
    http://forum.grailtone.com/viewtopic.php?t=26359
    http://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showthread.php?70531-New-Guitar-I-FINALLY-Own-an-EBMM-JP-6-BFR!

    P.S. I apologize in advance if some of these posts are identical as they could be "quoted" posts.
     
  4. Santuzzo

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    I also don't think the necks shift, as Jonathan said, these guitars have very tight neck pockets and yes, the angle at which the pictures are taken can cause a wrong impression.
    Here's a pic of my JP7, I tried to take the pic from center as much as possible (might be still a bit off, I dunno), but I can assure you the neck is centered perfectly on this guitar, but as you can see on the picture on both sides there is not a lot of fret space left for the outer strings, and I think this is mainly due to the fret bevel. Some players may have a problem with that while others may not. I do occasionally pull the high e-string off the frets, so maybe I only need to refine my technique. Either way, I guess it is something you can get used to.
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    @Jonathan: have you ever noticed the high e-string slipping off the frets more easily on any of the JP guitars you have played compared to other brands of guitar? Especially when playing pull-offs?
     
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    In your case, I'd say it's the 7th string that is too far out.

    I just hope that I don't give the impression that I am bashing on these guitars, heck I want one BADLY. It's just something I noticed.
     
  6. Santuzzo

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    I guess it looks like that on the pic I posted, but that is due to the angle I took the pic at, apparently I did not manage to get the pic take 100% straight and centered, but I can assure you on this guitar the neck and string alignment is centered just fine. Equal amount of space on both outer strings, but the point I was trying to make is that it's not a lot of fret space on either side due to the fret bevel which might take some getting used to for some players (like myself).
     
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    I've had the same issue with mine, but I'm fine with it. It might be a compromise between fretboard sizes... like it's halfway between a 6 and most other 7's I've tried. I find it incredibly comfortable as a result.
     
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    I don't have that issue on any of mine, either.
     
  9. Rachmaninoff

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    I've owned two EBMMs: my first was a JP6 mystic dream, which had the neck shifted; I sold it. Years later I bought a JP6 BFR koa, which didn't have the neck shifted (I really paid attention before buying); I sold it too, for other reasons.
     
  10. Jonathan20022

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    I have noticed that actually, EBMM were my top favorite instruments when I got into them and I decided to take it as something I should adjust technique wise with my playing and adjust how my vibrato performs. I used to be very wild with how I controlled my vibrato so initially I did have a few times where I'd slip off the fretboard a bit, I just picked up my X7 and gave it a spin on the high e. I can see how it'd be easy for someone to pull it a bit farther, the fret ends are beveled in a bit more than almost any other guitar I have.

    My point is, the necks on these guitars due to how tight the pockets are. Are unlikely to shift to the left and right causing the string to be closer to one side of the fretboard than the other. You mentioned the neck shifted, was this after you bought it and did it ever get damaged or hit anything? Seems pretty bad to sell something that has an issue that you put shame on EBMM for overlooking as well.

    I actually sold my Koa Rosewood Neck'd JP6 because I believed it sounded too mellow in comparison to the basswood/alder bodied variants. But yeah I'd imagine that if I didn't encounter this in a sample size of this amount, I wouldn't imagine the issue being as widespread as it is being implied.
     
  11. Santuzzo

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    Thanks! What you are saying makes perfect sense to me. :yesway:
     
  12. Petar Bogdanov

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    Ovaled holes in basswood aren't exactly unheard of, with Ibanez, for example. No matter how many screws you drive into basswood, it's still basswood. Basswood.
     
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    I've owned 5 different JPs over the years and only one had a misaligned neck, and that one was a trivial issue caused by being bumped around during shipping. 30 seconds to loosen and retighten the neck bolts and it was perfectly straight and stayed there. Your average JP has a tighter neck pocket than your average Suhr that costs $1500 more.

    (and if you're REALLY anal about it, just buy a Majesty :lol:)
     
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    OR DO WHAT I DID AND BUY BOTH

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  15. Santuzzo

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    :yesway:
    do you have more pic of your JP15?
     
  16. Jonathan20022

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    I'd like to try a Majesty again, the satin was one of my main deterrents. I might get one of the new ones they announced next year.
     
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    Well, if you don't like satin finishes you won't like the Majesty. The new ones are apparently only glossy on the top as well. Personally, mine sounds better than the JP15- brighter and tighter, which you wouldn't expect considering the 15's all maple neck and bolt-on neck. Wood varies a lot!
     
  18. Jonathan20022

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    Oh interesting, I didn't know that. The top being glossed is perfect for me, keeps everything neat and even looking. I gotta see one in person to see how they pull that off.
     
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    Happy to have finally joined the club!
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    Dawn of the Shred Sweeps and Chuggs

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    .^ Looks killer man!
     

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