Moongrum
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that's a lot of gray, but I dig it, it's unique. Glad you got a good top, hope you dig it once everything settles
The Carvin / Kiesel thread
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kriff
You've failed me for the last time, Admiral
At work right now so will also need to check out the pickups! I've got Lundgren ready to go on speed dial it they are not sufficientthat's a lot of gray, but I dig it, it's unique. Glad you got a good top, hope you dig it once everything settles
kriff
You've failed me for the last time, Admiral
Pickups might need changing, we'll see. I got a Thorium in the bridge and Empyrean in the neck, and they feel a little weedy (not as bad as the Lithiums that came in another Kiesel I have which were really weak). Will see how it goes though.
It's also ridiculously light. I got a swamp ash body, chambered, and it's only 2.6kg which is slightly under 6lbs. Absurd.
It's also ridiculously light. I got a swamp ash body, chambered, and it's only 2.6kg which is slightly under 6lbs. Absurd.
iamaom
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Bit of a rant: I wanna order a new guitar and playing around with the builder is pretty fun, but why on earth do almost NONE of the color options match?? Except for white, pink, and black, none of the painted pickups match the dots! I want an all black guitar with green dots and pickups, but they don't offer the bright green as a pickup color (despite almost all the other pickup colors matching the body colors), same with red and blue, the dots don't match the body or pickup colors. Also why the hell is there no just "green", there are 5 shades but they're all pastel or neon. Even the metallic section doesn't have sherwood or emerald??
spudmunkey
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The bright green pickups aren't in the painted pickup section. They are colored plastic, so they are in with the black, cream, and white bobbins.
As for the rest, I think they went about it backwards. Whoever their supplier is for the fretboard inlays acrylic must have a relatively limited color offering, so some don't match their paint colors... though I think offering a new paint color to better match the inlays could have been a neat idea.
BigViolin
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Can someone convince Jeff that the world can survive a very small spec change on a sig model. Like med jumbo to jumbo on a TM or Becker.
I’m entirely certain most would survive. It may be tough for awhile but I think we would pull through, and perhaps in the end, be stronger for it.
I’m entirely certain most would survive. It may be tough for awhile but I think we would pull through, and perhaps in the end, be stronger for it.
You can call in to make certain changes. I ordered a Becker numbers a couple of years ago with jumbo instead of medium jumbo along with a reverse headstock. I tried to order a Yin Yang with the standard neck profile instead of thin profile and they wouldn't do it though. Not sure the reasoning behind certain changes being allowed but not others.
BigViolin
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Yeah, I could “call the guys” but I remember Jeff saying the TM would be non returnable with a change to jumbos which just seemed a little silly and turned me off.
Now ya got my attention with the reverse pointy on a numbers.
Now ya got my attention with the reverse pointy on a numbers.
spudmunkey
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Even Jason Becker has one, in black:Now ya got my attention with the reverse pointy on a numbers.
Jeff would make everything non returnable if he couldYeah, I could “call the guys” but I remember Jeff saying the TM would be non returnable with a change to jumbos which just seemed a little silly and turned me off.
Now ya got my attention with the reverse pointy on a numbers.
Surveyor 777
I measure things
This is good to know. I saw someone on YouTube that had a reverse headstock numbers model. That's exactly what I want - a numbers model with jumbo and reverse HS.
Hollowway
Extended Ranger
Completely derailing this recent spec topic, but I just received a Zeus acoustic 8 I've wanted since they came out. I was languishing on GC, and was shockingly not overpriced for a used instrument ($1399 - pic below). It's older (2019, it appears) and the action is a little finicky in that I have to have it at about 1.2mm at the 12th fret or it starts fretting out at the higher frets. I think the nut may be a tad higher than ideal, or the upper frets could use a bit of fall-away.
Anyway, it's not acoustic, and doesn't really sound acoustic, but I knew that going in. It IS different, has phosphor bronze strings, and sounds different from non-piezo 8s, so I'll prolly keep it.
Anyone else have/had a version of these?
Anyway, it's not acoustic, and doesn't really sound acoustic, but I knew that going in. It IS different, has phosphor bronze strings, and sounds different from non-piezo 8s, so I'll prolly keep it.
Anyone else have/had a version of these?
on their old gallery they had some sick looking trans finished numbers guitars too
spudmunkey
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BigViolin
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That blue/purple one is sick.
spudmunkey
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I'm honestly surprised they haven't gone that route...but it's not a slam dunk.
It would cut the SKU count of different guitar bridges they would need to stock from 12 to 1: Three (6, 7 and 8 string) times two (right and left-handed) times two (straight and multiscale).
It would give them flexibility to offer any unique multiscale geometry without needing a new bespoke bridge for it.
Even if they decided to offer all 3 finishes (black, chrome, and gold), that would still be a 75% reduction in SKU count to stock from the current lineup of 12 all-black whole-bridges to just 3 Solo bridge colors.
That said, it would slow down assembly time a bit, and in my head it seems like it would be a little less comfortable on the right hand...though I don't have actual experience with 'em.
The other bummer is that the solo bridges can't go nearly as low. While smaller from nose-to-tail by about 1/4", they are taller. The full headless bridges can go down to 0.30" string height with a max of 0.47", while the Solo bridges can only go down as far as 0.42" and up to 0.6", which means they'd also have to spend more time in the CNC and hand-sanding for the routing of recessed spots for each bridge.
Then it's a little more fiddly with finishing due to finish thickness: do you make the recesses slightly oversized so the bridges fit with a thicker finish but then could look "gappy" with a thinner finish like their Raw Tone? Or do you go through have have a separate program for the two finish types with tighter routes for thinner finishes, and larger routes to accommodate thicker finishes, and hope that only the right bridge route is chosen to match the final finish? Or do you maybe have a separate station for someone whose main job is to read the finish type, then use a separate CNC or jig to cut the appropriate bridge recesses to minimize that potential screwup? With any of those, they'd add cost to the production time.
The individual saddles also weigh a little more. Only ~35-40g (1.34oz) more for a 6-string and 2.25oz for an 8-string, but it's not nothin'...
It would cut the SKU count of different guitar bridges they would need to stock from 12 to 1: Three (6, 7 and 8 string) times two (right and left-handed) times two (straight and multiscale).
It would give them flexibility to offer any unique multiscale geometry without needing a new bespoke bridge for it.
Even if they decided to offer all 3 finishes (black, chrome, and gold), that would still be a 75% reduction in SKU count to stock from the current lineup of 12 all-black whole-bridges to just 3 Solo bridge colors.
That said, it would slow down assembly time a bit, and in my head it seems like it would be a little less comfortable on the right hand...though I don't have actual experience with 'em.
The other bummer is that the solo bridges can't go nearly as low. While smaller from nose-to-tail by about 1/4", they are taller. The full headless bridges can go down to 0.30" string height with a max of 0.47", while the Solo bridges can only go down as far as 0.42" and up to 0.6", which means they'd also have to spend more time in the CNC and hand-sanding for the routing of recessed spots for each bridge.
Then it's a little more fiddly with finishing due to finish thickness: do you make the recesses slightly oversized so the bridges fit with a thicker finish but then could look "gappy" with a thinner finish like their Raw Tone? Or do you go through have have a separate program for the two finish types with tighter routes for thinner finishes, and larger routes to accommodate thicker finishes, and hope that only the right bridge route is chosen to match the final finish? Or do you maybe have a separate station for someone whose main job is to read the finish type, then use a separate CNC or jig to cut the appropriate bridge recesses to minimize that potential screwup? With any of those, they'd add cost to the production time.
The individual saddles also weigh a little more. Only ~35-40g (1.34oz) more for a 6-string and 2.25oz for an 8-string, but it's not nothin'...
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I've been wanting one for ages but just never coughed up the money for one since I don't play guitar all that much.
kriff
You've failed me for the last time, Admiral
Really interesting. What's the cost difference between the solo bridges and the full bridges?
AkiraSpectrum
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WOW that is absolutely gorgeous!!!!
