Whoah, he was not messing around! I do not mind Creed actually, they had some nice melodies even if I am not a fan. Still, you got some free death metal cds out of it, even if they are christian ones. Never heard of such bands myself, only some black metal ones like Order of Apollyon, which confused me as members of Balrog were in them. Well personally, I would not go (for example) to a Romanian family of a Ceaușescu regime starvation victim and say that or to a Polish family that had one of its member taken to a concentration camp never to return or be seen again and argue semantics. Sounds like being apologetic to me to promote an ideology which brought havoc, "This serial killer killed 8 people while the other 10, this makes his ideology better". Anyway, wrong thread for this discussion maybe.