HeHasTheJazzHands
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So close with the ToM one. Gimme the slime green on that one.
But yeah uh, Special on that price is a big nope.
But yeah uh, Special on that price is a big nope.
Solar Guitars by Ola Englund
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RevDrucifer
SS.org Regular
As long as I can slap a Gotoh 1996t in something, I don’t really care about spending an extra $120 to get one. Sometimes you can find them used for $100.
I didn’t have any interest in the X-series at all until I saw that green one. Do wish it were a bit more Dime Slime-ish, though.
I didn’t have any interest in the X-series at all until I saw that green one. Do wish it were a bit more Dime Slime-ish, though.
JimF
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Especially when he's done the S type in a similar finish!
That's Dime Slime, maybe the trans brown ones could be Ola-Cola?
MAJ Meadows SF
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I cannot believe it came out this quick! Baby puke green is me all day. FR Special is meh, but you can change a bridge very easily, and I always do. I actually expected this to be more than $1099 USD. I actually don't mind the green inlay either.
+1 with an aged floyd, and I'd also delete the neck pickup. Or at least on one of the floyd models.
Ola-Cola... that has a ring to it! Although the above dime'ish color is cool and I'd love to see it on one of these X-Types (should have been the Euro release color, but I get the "Solar" burst), but this is more dragon burst than a Washburn D3 Slime. Import models had varying degrees of ugly slime bursts with darker amber centers, but the OG with neon green edges fading into lemon/lime center was perfect. Delete the forest green burst job and this would have my attention all day on an X.Especially when he's done the S type in a similar finish!
That's Dime Slime, maybe the trans brown ones could be Ola-Cola?
Kyle Jordan
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Ola-Cola absolutely needs to be a Solar finish. Maybe a darker brown take on Root Beer Metallic/Sparkle.
ezboarderz
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shouldnt have to do that though for €1250. Ideally, one should just need to swap the pickups and are set.
Man I love the look of the green one but I was already on the fence due to it being 22 frets and 24.75" scale. Then to see the price where it is and see a floyd special is a let down. Even the dime slime E type is $50 less than this and that comes with a floyd 1000, SS frets, and locking tuners.
RevDrucifer
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For $1250 I absolutely expect to do that. I don’t find the 1000 to be that much better than the Special and won’t even bother with that when Gotoh’s are cheap enough and I won’t have to think about them wearing out in a short amount of time.
Your options at that price are used MIJ Ibanez RG’s or something from the Premium line and then you have deal with finding a great Premium which isn’t even worth the headache, IMO.
I’d maybe agree with you if it were the 90’s, but you haven’t been able to buy a great Floyd on a guitar in that price range for nearly 30 years.
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What kind of grassroots campaign do we need to establish to make this happen?
GenghisCoyne
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i liked it, ive done all i can doWhat kind of grassroots campaign do we need to establish to make this happen?
works0fheart
Tike Myson
Most of my guitars are Floyd-equipped and I rarely have to tune them. There are still plenty of factors though such as heat or moisture that can cause your guitar to go out of tune and it still happens to me every now and then. Unfortunately neither a Floyd or Evertune will stop a neck angle from slightly adjusting. At that point you just need to learn to adjust a truss rod and go from there.
I don't think Evertunes are bad or good really. I don't have strong feelings for them either way, they're just not a Floyd, and that's what I prefer.
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Lord Voldemort
SS.org Regular
An Evertune isn't really meant to keep a neck from warping or the wood from shifting. It's just meant to keep a guitar perpetually in tune, which it does.
All I'm saying is that every time an Evertune is mentioned in any thread, leagues of people that don't have an Evertune come out and talk about all the drawbacks and then are swiftly corrected by the Evertune users, yet ignore them and just repost the same stuff about Evertunes in a different thread.
From what I've come to understand by people that play Evertune bridges and at this point about 100 YouTube videos, they keep your guitar perfectly in tune at all times, bending isn't harder at all if you set it up correctly, there's no evidence that the tone suffers at all other than a person or two speculating and that the only drawback is that it's a new system that requires a little effort to understand.
It's really a net positive afaict. I teach guitar full time, I have 3 Floyd equipped guitars and most my others have fantastic tuning stability. I still tune every single day, and on every guitar there's at least one or two strings that are somewhat flat. If there's a system that fixes that with zero drawbacks, why is it so hated on by people that haven't tried it?
You either die the forward thinking millennial or live long enough to become the boomer.
Maybe not in feel, but the special is made of way softer materials and degrade (and break) a lot faster than a 1000 series.
works0fheart
Tike Myson
I know, that's just the point I was making though. There are more factors for a guitar going out of tune than just a bridge sometimes. Like I said though, I don't have any love or hate for Evertunes. Honestly, I'm just as sick of hearing from the people who love them as I am the people that complain about them lol.
jephjacques
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Seconding this. Evertunes are dead simple to set up once you've read the manual.
T_Gobbs
SS.org Regular
Evertuned to what...
RevDrucifer
SS.org Regular
For sure, but I don’t believe the 1000 is that much of a step above. For someone not as whammy fanatical it might not be a big deal but if I bought any guitar with a 1000 on it, it’d be getting replaced day 1.
Even if this has been discussed to oblivion, just no. 1k is a good trem. Special often is not. Had 'em all, in multiples.
I don't discount your experiences, they may be very real, but the differences are not systematic and new 1k = OFR, if you get a good unit. Not sure of their quality control, because I've not had a bad one. As far as Floyds go, I have nothing but good things to say about 1k. Sticky fine tuning screws can happen, but is solved with a lube.
Besides:
1000 Series (Original style)
The 1000 Series Original is the Korean-made version of the Original Tremolo, made to the same specifications and materials, but is available only to guitar manufacturers and can not be purchased aftermarket except for the Burnt Chrome finish. Parts for this system can be found here. For...
www.floydrose.com
RevDrucifer
SS.org Regular
Even if this has been discussed to oblivion, just no. 1k is a good trem. Special often is not. Had 'em all, in multiples.
I don't discount your experiences, they may be very real, but the differences are not systematic and new 1k = OFR, if you get a good unit. Not sure of their quality control, because I've not had a bad one. As far as Floyds go, I have nothing but good things to say about 1k. Sticky fine tuning screws can happen, but is solved with a lube.
Besides:
1000 Series (Original style)
The 1000 Series Original is the Korean-made version of the Original Tremolo, made to the same specifications and materials, but is available only to guitar manufacturers and can not be purchased aftermarket except for the Burnt Chrome finish. Parts for this system can be found here. For...
Glad it works for ya! I’m definitely not alone with my experiences and am perfectly happy buying Gotoh’s instead.
JimF
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I agree with all the points above, but just to add further murkiness to the waters...
Evertune bridges by default do the following:
1) Stop guitars going out of tune
2) Stop pitch drift for heavy handed gorillas (notes going sharp when played)
3) Corrects intonation*
...and for me, points 2 & 3 are more important than point 1. I never had an issue tuning my guitar everytime I picked it up. I'm lucky enough to live in a stable enough climate. But I was sick of forever having to constantly retune the guitar for playing different areas on the neck when recording. Especially with big chords etc. Could this have been solved with a more accurate setup on my instruments? Perhaps, but I noticed only a marginal improvement between guitars I'd setup and ones that had a pro tend to them.
Yes a fretted guitar is a flawed instrument that has been used successfully to make all guitar music since the dawn of time. However I can hear these tuning issues when I play, when I listen to my recordings, and when I listen to signed bands on real recordings.
* Okay, so the Evertune does absolutely ZERO to the intonation. It doesn't change it whatsoever. But it does give the overall effect of corrected intonation by detuning/uptuning strings to their required tension for a set position. And it does this instantaneously. That doesn't have the same ring to it does it.
Like the saying goes, if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, there ain't much point correcting people that this particular bird is technically a pygmy goose.
