Snowflakery...

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  1. PunkBillCarson

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    Dude, I've lobbed many insults towards liberals on this forum. My last banning was because I called the mods "liberal fucking Nazi's." If you don't believe me, ask the mods. My insult was mainly towards the Conservatives on this side though, because they seem to be the ones telling all the bleeding hearts to saddle up and pull up their panties, but then watch a bunch of them act like they got slapped in the face when some guy kneels on a field for the great 'Murican sport "football." You'll see me say this a million goddamn times. Liberals AND Conservatives are both full of shit, both of them have shit that offends them which amuses me, it's just that for the side that's always talking about being offended, some guy kneeling triggers them like no other.
     
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    Yeah, for real. :lol:
     
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    So they're basically trying to program "bullies" to call people "snowflakes" instead of "pussies" it sounds like. The problem isn't all this attempted re-programming of people. The problem is that there is some success in doing it.
     
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    You are right, it does work both ways. But I would say it's much more justified to feel offended and disrespected by people who kneel at the anthem/flag when it is very easy to equate them to people who literally stomp and burn the flag. For one, I dont like how the U.S. is always policing the world and involved in every other country, etc etc....and I don't support the cause necessarily, because those wars my be based on deception, but I do support the troops who may not realize or don't feel like they are being deceived and duped into fighting unnecessary wars, (they don't have to believe the same things I do), but they are fighting for our freedom (or so they may think), and they are 100% heroes for having that spirit and putting their lives on the line.

    So if an American loving American (if I may put it so) sees someone kneeling at the flag, that is where their rage is coming from.

    As opposed to people such as neo-feminists, the most self-hating self-loathing kind of people (perhaps, they don't even have a "self", but thats something to unpack in perhaps a psychology thread), You see so many of these types of liberals who want to shut down public speakers when they come to speak at a university for example, they dont even want to have a debate about anything. They just want to shut down anyone that they dont agree with.

    Take this self-less person in this person in this video with the shaved head. This girl is the epitome of toxic femininity. I dont know exactly what happened before this video started filming, but judging by the calm manner of the man she is screaming at, I would bet $100 that she got up in their face first, spitting venom. After she spits the venom then she tries to flip a switch and act all calm and polite and lady-like, but it's phony as fuck.

    She goes on to say two things that stick out to me. One being that a political discourse doesn't need to be 50/50 from both sides, but basically that it needs to be all woman, 100%. No room here for a trump supporting male. Then she throws a crying tantrum about how his trump hat makes her scared, etc..

    My point is that this is the typical childish behavior that I see from the left, and its completely un-justified and irrational. So yeah, the term snowflake is much more fitting for a leftist.

    Sorry, here is the video
     
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    Here's the thing though, they're not fighting for freedom. We've got freedom in spades and so do a lot of other countries. Other countries have the same freedoms we have. The point of Kaepernick kneeling was to show that America needs to be better and he's not wrong. I'm not even a football fan, but you can't change anything unless you speak out and you're not going to get anyone's attention unless you do something about it. This man didn't burn a flag, he didn't say "fuck America." There's nothing wrong with loving your country. What's wrong is people who say there's nothing wrong with this country. Are we the worst country on Earth? No, far from it, but we're also far from the best and that needs to change. A TRUE patriot would want to see true change for their country. Have our taxes go towards what matters which is education and healthcare instead of lining the pockets of some greedy CEO. I'll grant you, the woman in that video has gone a little nuts, but you can't honestly say that liberals have the only snowflakes there are. You try and bring up issues with lesser uneducated people, they either turn their noses up or they say "leave." No, that's not good enough for me, I'm sorry and even if the left had ALL the snowflakes, at least they're fighting for something rather than nothing.

    Did you ever stop to think that maybe people act the way they do because they are fed up or maybe something happened in their lives to spark the behavior? That doesn't make what they're doing right, but in a country that demonizes mental health issues and makes you feel like shit for being weak, even if it's not on a physical level, of course you're going to have shit like this happen! Another problem with that is people tend to believe you had to have done something big in your life or to have something big happen to you for you to experience mental illness. You don't have to be a war torn vet to have depression or anything like that. Anytime someone has a problem, half this fucking country tells them to saddle up and you know what? Yeah, I get it. Sometimes you just want the drama queens to stop self-diagnosing. I hate that shit. People acting like they have 26 different mental illnesses just because they're nervous about starting a new job or something, I can't stand it. But there are people out there with actual issues and you don't have to hand them a rifle and tell them to fight for oil AHEM- I mean FREEDOM, for them to have issues.

    So yes, when a whiny fucking conservative who probably didn't even serve tries to tell me or someone else that everyone else is a snowflake because they want change but then starts screaming and hollerin' GAWD BLESS DAYLE FUCKIN' EARNHARDT, you bet your ass they're just as much as snowflake as the people they're talking about and the difference is? They CHOOSE to be ignorant instead of recognizing what needs to be fixed. "But, my guns! My money! My free speech!" No one's taking those away, but they're not giving anything to anyone else that doesn't fall in line with them.


    And if you need a source for my complaints of all this idiocy, check my location. Born and raised in this uber-conservative bullshit and the ONLY reason I haven't left is because I found the first job that paid great, took it, and stayed. But when I get outside, I can smell that good ol' Southern hospitality. It's not all bad, but just like this country, it needs work. All these things I've said are things I've heard from my environment for the last thirty years and anecdotal evidence may not be evidence, but anyone who's been down here knows exactly what I'm talking about. Why don't you ask the people down here why they whisper when they say that 6 letter N word they love so much?
     
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    Isn't it dumb to cherry pick this one person acting dumb in one video, and use it to characterize literally ten (if not hundreds) of millions of people? I don't get this logic, but I see it on the right (on the internet) a lot. "Look at this person being ridiculous on a college campus. 'The left' surely is getting out of hand." There's enough stupid people in the world that if you walk around with a camera enough, that by this logic, you're going to be able to discredit basically every large group of people. Which is precisely why it doesn't really provide anything useful to any discussion.

    Same with your characterization of feminists.

    Why don't you talk about an idea that you think is bad, instead of a group of people you think is bad, when you know of and interact with only 0.000001% of said group?
     
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    I am like one fucking square away from a BINGO. Anyone have more markers?
     
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    Center square is a "safe space". You win!! Also the other players win too!
     
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    Kaepernick? for a better America? The same man who is proudly endorsed by Nike? The same Nike that uses child labor and pays peanuts per hour to make his cleats? If he was truly against oppression he would start with his sponsors. Yeah so that's very unclear then as to WHAT kind of change he actually wants...

    On your second paragraph: Problems in this country are never going to get fixed until people do some "shadow work" on themselves, and figure out why they themselves have these problems. People keep looking externally for change, they turn to medications, they sign up for stupid clubs and cults and join gangs, they turn to all the outlet traps that this hyper-extroverted society provides for them. This country doesn't demonize mental health issues, it makes excuses for them.

    "GAWD BLESS DAYLE FUCKIN' EARNHARDT": This is the second phrase you used that equated southern red-neck speech with conservatives.

    "But, my guns! My money! My free speech!" No one's taking those away: No? What percentage of democrats and liberals do you actually think want to take peoples guns away completely? What percentage of college kids today (roughly 80%) are pro-socialism anti-capitalism/ would be fine with taking peoples money away (especially from "greedy CEO's like you said) and "spreading the wealth around a little bit"? (that's an obama easter egg) What percentage of liberals want to take free speech away? To me, it seems like a lot from videos i've seen. they are the ones who coined the term "hate-speech", they are the ones who shut down and prevent political figures from visting and speaking at different places across the country/world. We know I am right that people on the left would be hella-inclined to take those things away before anyone on the right would. The scale has been tipped over already.

    Not sure what the N word has to do with anything. It's funny I was watching Esacpe from Alcatrazz on TV the other day and the censored one word when they should have either censored two, or not censored anything. The scene when Clint Eastwood goes into the recess area outside and approaches the area where the black guys were sitting. A black said to Clint, "where you goin cracker"? and you heard cracker loud and clear. I was like, lol oh ok. Then the black guy asks Clint why he wouldn't sit at the top bench, he said "are you scared or you just hated "_______" (obviously he said niggers). Clint said, no i just hate "______". My jaw almost hit the floor that they would block one racial slur and not the other.
     
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    theres only 5 squares in bingo....
     
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    There are actually 25.

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    Yeah but here you are citing EXTREME examples of the crowd you're trying to demonize and I get it. You're generalizing a little bit, as have I, BUT I'm not talking about extreme examples. I'm talking about your average Conservative here, you know... the kind that listen to the guy that says women can shut down a rape baby by refusing to orgasm? There is literally no one coming after guns full stop. There are people who believe that certain people should not have guns or that it should be harder to get guns, yes. There are also people who belong in the minority that would take guns away, but those aren't your threats to your freedom. There are some who shrivel when you say slurs, but then there are those who believe you can say whatever you want as long as you're willing to deal with someone confronting you about it.

    Also, regarding Kaepernick, he wasn't fighting against child labor, he's fighting against police brutality and lack of equality, so... what you said isn't here nor there. If you have a problem with me saying "GAWD BLESS DAYLE FUCKIN' EARNHARDT" and occasionally poking fun at ignorance... well that's your problem, but you can't pretend it's not an actual thing, because it is. Also in regards to the racial slurs, I agree with you on that. Neither should have been allowed to clear hearing them. Now I think of it, how that movie is PG is fucking BEYOND me.

    Here's something you need to understand though: You're not talking about average progressives. You're taking the extreme of them and trying to use that as your point when they're the exception and not the rule. Sorry, that doesn't work.

    OH and before I forget? This country DOES have a stigma attached to mental health. If it was that easy to talk about issues without feeling alone and felt like someone was actually helping or reaching out, the suicide rate wouldn't be what it is. This is NOT a hyper-extroverted society. The ironic part is that for as much as we've developed social media, we've used it as a way to actually detach ourselves from each other, so... wrong again.
     
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    You called me out on using extreme liberals to make my point and said I'm wrong, but you keep using the extreme conservative rhetoric "insert redneck punchline here", and dont see how that is hypocritical.

    There are other things I couldnt respond to as to where I think you're wrong. We disagree with alot of things, but it's cool.
     
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    I meant you only need 5 squares to win bingo. You had 5 words and said you needed one more.
     
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    I believe that I'd already said that I was guilty of doing that. :lol:
     
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    Not really anything more American than exploiting cheap or free labor by any means necessary.

    But yea, also funny that the first people who rage on liberals for supposedly trying to take away free speech / coining the term "hate speech" are often the same people who get outraged by Kaepernick kneeling (which is just a statement that offends them).
     
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    See, that's the beauty of not being liberal or conservative... nothing bothers you!
     
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    On the contrary...

    There are quite a few things that bother me. How we treat our citizens, our homeless, our vets are among those. This country could be so much better in terms of health, education, and who we choose to incarcerate, but... money.
     
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    It's practically guaranteed that whatever device you typed this on contains minerals that were extracted from the earth by forced labor, be it de facto slavery or actual slavery. If you want to play the game of "no one can champion a cause or point out the hypocrisy in others unless they're an innocent lamb whose entire existence is predicated on ensuring that every molecule they encounter has never been touched by sin," you'll have to fall so far down the technological ladder that the only people who will ever hear you speak will be those in your immediate vicinity, and then you'll die of exposure when winter comes and you're without food, clothing and shelter.

    Naturally, you aren't going to do that, because that would be stupid. The thing is, though, that trying to rebuke someone like Kaepernick simply because the platform that he's using to fight for positive change also has blood on its hands is nothing more than a deflection meant to pull focus away from the real issues at hand. It's the same tactic that conservatives have been using for years. Whenever they want to stifle debate, they'll say something like "all lives matter", "not all men," "what about Hillary's emails," or "it's not gun owners, it's the mentally ill who need treatment" (and that last one is especially rich considering how little of a shit the right cares about treating the mentally ill), statements and questions that, while inherently legitimate, are only thrown out with the utterly dishonest intent of derailing any real discussion.
     
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    As a centrist who leans left on a lot of things... imagine hiring the majority of these whackadoodles.

    Please remember, this is not the professor who replied-all to the email, he is merely out there as an administrator to help diffuse the situation and talk with "you people". :lol:

    Fast-forward to 6:20. Looks like the only person that needs a safe space is the professor. :coffee:

    These people, with their "safe space" and "trigger warning" culture, is 90% of why people like Trump get elected and will probably be re-elected. - Signed, a liberal. :fawk:


    (@2:55 for the rant)
     
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