27InchScale
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Did you miss the Axe palace limited run if the RG2027XL in Satin Silver? Blank ebony board, 27” scale, stainless steel frets, lo pro trem.... perfection.
Rarity of RG2027xVV and RG1077XL/ RG2077XL
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Did you miss the Axe palace limited run if the RG2027XL in Satin Silver? Blank ebony board, 27” scale, stainless steel frets, lo pro trem.... perfection.
27InchScale
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Ill just leave this custom RG1077XL here...
I saw that. It is perfect. I had issues with just a 26.75 scale once though and much prefer the 25.5" scale. Those would be nice in a 25.5 ofr sure.
buck fever
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I tried real hard to buy that but apparently missed out between sending a Comment on Instagram and sending a DM. Still not over it.
27InchScale
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Sorry my guy, I was very lucky and blessed to snag this. I gotta say never owning/played a RG1077XL before, it is my now favorite neck. Which is saying alot. Out of all the Ibanez guitars ive owned and played i.e. 1990 UV7PWH, 1991 UV777GR, 2001 K7, 2000 RG7421XL, several RG2027XLs, 2008 LACS 7, K720,RG7620, RG7321, RG1527M among other ibanez 7s..... the 2001 K7 and 2000 RG7421XL have been my go to most comfortable for long playing of all. Now the RG1077XL is tied for first place. Ntm its the only one like it.
27InchScale
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curious was it a 6 or 7 string? Also what brand? Its been my experience (Ive only used extended scale Ibanez/schecter and PRS) that playability will vary between manufacturers. Schecter 27” scale 7 strings were super uncomfortable IMHO for me, PRS 27.7” scale 6 string was fairly comfortable but very baseball bat like grip wise. Ibanez 27” scales to me the only difference I seem to notice is the strech is slightly greater on frets 1-5, and I mean slight. Hardly a big deal for my relatively small hands. Maybe you should try a different brand? The tone/tension of that scale length is sooooooooo good. 1 1/2” is not so great on the right fret board. And for perspective, my fingers are too short to play a 8 string well. I had a RG2228M for about two days and returned it because after the 7th fret I couldnt properly finger chords or the neck comfortably let alone to sound good. Now I have almost exclusively played 7 strings since I was 12 years old until recently acqiuring a few 27” scale Ibanez 6 strings. Just a fan if the scale length, hope you give it another go.
buck fever
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it’s my favorite neck, too. I’ll never sell the two I have, that’s for sure.
Thanks for all the information on those. Good to know.
- I had a custom Abyss 26.75 scale eventually sold it because I couldn't jive with the scale length, then a bouta year or two later bought it back and tried again for a years or so before selling again. I've also tried other 27's and 28's lke the Mushock, and Agile. All those were 7's. I just could getalong with them in that 1-5 fret range specifically that you mention. The issue I had was mostly with chords rather than single note stuff.
- I also tried a multi scale Aristides 080s, which I think is 28" on the low side, plus it has another string. Even so, it was the easiest to play of all them. I still struggled on the lower strings bit but it was much easier.
- The fact you mention neck profile makes sense as the 080s had a much nicer feeling profile for the back of the neck and felt thinner with less shoulders than the others I played.
- I bet if I played the right one I could jive with it. It likely is all abou tte profile with me regarding a 27" scale. I bet one of these Ibby's could potentially be great if I found one without big shoulders and the exact thickness I needed for the middle area thickness.
- I'd love to try one out. Please send your guitar too me at 1234 guitar gone rd.
buck fever
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I don’t care much for the 2077 either, but that’s mostly because I don’t like the trem.See how tastes differ. I never got along with my RG2077xl. 27" is just too much for me
the middle pickup of the 1077XL / 2077XL really bothers me when picking, but they were really sought after before Ibanez reissue the XL series recently.
I think you should just keep your 2027XL, with historic correct finish and without the middle pickup, it should be more appealing to most player, not to mention the lo pro edge looks better IMO
I think you should just keep your 2027XL, with historic correct finish and without the middle pickup, it should be more appealing to most player, not to mention the lo pro edge looks better IMO
27InchScale
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That is sound advice, and I would of completely agreed with you 100%, up until I recently put hands on a RG1077XL. I own two RG2027XLs. While their necks are great, they dont hold a candle to my RG1077XL. To be honest there is something so freaking magical about Ibanez 1999-2002 necks IMO. So while I dont use the middle Pickup ever, I lower it all the way down and forget it. The neck is by far my favorite though. My 2 cents
I mean, just read some of the posts in this thread.Are we in the same forum?
To be fair, those models are notorious for serious longevity issues: either cracking of the finish or fingerboard wear, issues with the trem/piezo, and just poor reaction to time, dust, light, and the grease of playing - so if your guitars aren't in bad shape, I would guess $1500 for one in great condition, up to $2k for a near mint one....
what would you grade it, especially are there any repairs/done
SlipknotKoRnfan
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The one thing I'll agree with is that the clear coat isn't as strong as most other ibanez finishes, however both my 2020X and 2027X are now over 20 years old and have zero issues. I'd say 95% of it has to do with the owner and how they take care of it. I haven't noticed any issues with reaction to dust or light or anything else so it could be an individual thing. Mine aren't case queens and I've even gigged with them. But of course others could have different experiences with them.
OP, are you selling any of you 2027X's? Send me a PM.
odibrom
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I've got 2 RG2027XVVs which are already almost 20 years old. One of them I got by 2002 new and the other by 2016. They both have blemishes, mostly due to miss handling and some accidents along the way, but I believe they are still great solid guitars to play with. My older one is my main guitar since I bought it and it has already endured lots of surgeries from me, either in simple PU changes or in more complex full piezo and preamp replacements. Tomorrow I'll be picking the older one from a professional SS refret job as the newer already had that treatment a couple of weeks ago. I'm super happy with these guitars.
There's a thing I found that helps a lot with tones, which is to get all the piezos with the same phase (they came from factory in alternate phase) and do the KJG mod (which is replacing the piezo/mag switch for an ON/ON/ON switch) so one can have mag/mix/piezos. I've also replaced the Volume Pot for a 1M ohms and PUs are custom wound Alnico5 (voiced between modern and vintage). I also added a Freeway 5B5-01 switch so I could have more coil combos available at my fingertips. My 2027XVVs are here to stay and slay...
There's a thing I found that helps a lot with tones, which is to get all the piezos with the same phase (they came from factory in alternate phase) and do the KJG mod (which is replacing the piezo/mag switch for an ON/ON/ON switch) so one can have mag/mix/piezos. I've also replaced the Volume Pot for a 1M ohms and PUs are custom wound Alnico5 (voiced between modern and vintage). I also added a Freeway 5B5-01 switch so I could have more coil combos available at my fingertips. My 2027XVVs are here to stay and slay...
ah! so you had to do a complete "piezo swap" in order to get the LR Baggs to sound off properly? That was what I was concerned about when looking to purchase a 2027xvv - exactly that!
What did that run? Also, was it worth the cost or was the LR Baggs "working," just not hard enough?
That was the most interesting, and most desirable trem for me: I've always wanted to replace my lo pro edge with this one, but finding the trem is just as hard as finding a good condition 2027xvv, let alone a great/excellent condition one.
odibrom
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My oldest one had a preamp swap because in my early days of swapping in and out pickups, I managed to trash the preamp's internal phase switch*. The preamp worked fine though. Then, later on when I felt I was stronger with my soldering skills, I bought a new preamp and did the swap. The mew preamp already comes with an ON/ON/ON switch for the Mag/Piezo mix.
When o got my second one, I the first thing I did was a saddle swap between the 2 guitars since they came with opposite alternate phase combos, it was a direct test, the older one got all white wire piezos and the other all black wire piezos. The complete PIEZO SWAP on the older one was done a couple years ago (tops) due to me feeling that some of its piezos could be "fading out" so I ordered a 14 set of piezo elements from LRBaggs just to have backup. These are 20 year old guitars and supplies are starting to run thin. Some of the piezo wires were also getting shorter due my not so good soldering skills back then. Also take notice that these guitars are played every week and one of them almost every day since I bought it new back in 2002.
The purpose of this saddle swap was to have all strings in the same phase when mixing piezos and mags. Piezos alone were fine, but when mixing with mags, one would get alternate out of phase sounds per string unless the Piezo Volume was set to minimum. Once I've done this swap, it opened a whole world of tones, because the Piezo Volume works as a mag/piezo blend when the switch is set to mix. Neck split + piezo is a wonderfull tone to play with for example, specially since I can now manage to mix IN or OUT the piezo influence.
As far as I know, the major problem these trems have are the saddles, which are different from the regular LoPros and are no longer being produced. If one of them breaks I'll be forced to find an EdgePro 7 trem, whose saddles can receive these piezo elements with little modifications.
If my opinion serves anything, these are great solid guitars and very well built. One has to do some mods in order to get the most out of them, their original PUs are functional but far from being great...
* I was like, "Hey an internal switch!, I wonder what does it do?..." and my goofy hands at that time managed to bend it and when I tried to fixed it I broke it for good...
