God that's beautiful. But also sucks to hear of the lackluster tone. My head started spinning towards a Custom Shop order for this kind of guitar, I bet they could make one that sounds super nice. Though they probably wouldn't do one with a lawsuit headstock, lol.
Hey if those are the original knobs then leave it be! I’m just so used to the domes.Ha, really? I mean, that's 80s 3-knob horizon spec, maybe I could try it with black domes though.
Unrelated but here's the new one with the next in queue:
Actually played well but total trash in need of some TLC. Interestingly the HSS one had a totally different carve on the one horn.
You think they would have to level the clear down to logo level, apply, then reclear over? Or do you think it would look okay to apply it to the existing clear and add a new layer of clear over top? I'd just be worried about a raised spot where the added part of the logo is.Yea, I'm not against getting someone else to print out the lettering and then put it on. It's lame they can't do it rightout though, especially given how much the refinishing with them costs. I think in retrospect I'm not a huge fan of the 2D logos either though, and that was all on me.
Well they won't do it I'd have to find another paint guy. But I think it wouldn't be a big issue to basically apply over the top of everything. The logo is this, and the headstock doesn't get any wear. It's not high priority though. When I placed the order I liked the clean look of just the ESP letters. These days I'd like the drop shadow and "horizon . . . .", but it's not a huge deal on this one. It's more like, I have a queue of horizons all going into refinish, and probably a bunch of metallic colors, looking a little bit more traditional, I'd like the old lettering to be there. We're trying to explain this at CraftHouse like, this isn't a one-off, if it costs you 10,000Y, 20,000Y, etc. to do a run of decals that you'll put on Horizons, it'll be worth while...You think they would have to level the clear down to logo level, apply, then reclear over? Or do you think it would look okay to apply it to the existing clear and add a new layer of clear over top? I'd just be worried about a raised spot where the added part of the logo is.
Well hey if you don't like it I guess someone's gonna have to take it off your hands, probably you don't want it in the country then either. You're gonna want that far away, like the east coast most likely.
I know it's a big ask but I'd be willing to bear the difficult task of getting it out of your sight. I'll even cover the shipping myself.
Ok jokes aside, sorry to hear about the pickup but that was my issue with the TW series, they're kinda odd about that. Should be easy enough to throw a regular 57 or 81 in and the RPC instead of the SPC if you can get your hands on it. Sucks about the shipping though, but seriously that refinish is sick. Definitely worth the money (maybe not the 5x extra wait, damn) and set off my super strat GAS for the first time in years.
So the past 2-3 years I've made plenty of cryptic mentions of this ESP horizon that's getting refinished at BigBoss and taking forever. Yesterday, I picked it up! Here's the original thread of how it looked and what I was mulling over:
ESP horizon restoration projectHmm.... maybe not the best idea but I just won an auction for this: Pretty beat up, lots of scratches on the back, the headstock damage. But a lawsuit headstock horizon has been a dream guitar for a long time, and this one is kind of interesting with the SSH pickup config. It had the...www.sevenstring.org
In short, I had grabbed this old ESP horizon as a beater, it had a big chunk out of the headstock, and the finish on the back was all scuffed up. Frets were so-so. But it sounded great and played great, and became basically my go-to guitar for a year. After that, I thought, I'm near these shops, they offer refinish and repair services, maybe it's worth investing in making this a nicer guitar. I had seen a liquid metal pink FRX in person, and it just stole the show on a rack of many fancy other ESPs, so decided to go with that (from black) and do an SS extra jumbo refret while I'm at it. The logo was changed from the usual silver/gold drop to black. The bridge HB was changed from EMG 81 to 57TW, and the third control was changed to an SPC. I think I was quoted 8 months originally? I think it's been about 30! But it's done!
I couldn't be happier with the finish. There's some natural variation in liquid metal and I have seen some turn out looking pretty weird. It has a ton of depth and really stands out vs. other finishes. The fretwork is perfect, too. That's the "pros" category.
On the negative side, an if these frets don't feel average size to me at this point. I wonder if it's my imagination or if the order got messed up. The switch to the EMG 57... frankly doesn't seem as good as the 81. A little dull? The SPC doesn't seem particularly usable either. The goal with this, since it's HSS, was to have basicalyl an SSS setup with the split TW, and then have a lot of control over the thickness of the singles with the SPC. It sounds good, but I picked up another guitar from BigBoss yesterday with an 85 in the bridge, and that too I think sounds better. So that's a little bit of a bummer, but I'll work on that. They don't have any more of the "Horizon ...." logos, so I couldn't get that on there. Throwing on my DirtyPuma hat, the old horizons have sort of oval side dots that I think are painted on. I was told that when they scrape the old yellowed clearcoat off the binding, they may have to repaint these. They're sort of all over the place, a bit crooked and the last one is leaking a bit up onto the top of the binding.
Whelp, onward to ESP Horizon restomod #2... Quoted 6 months
Do you have better photos of the re-painted side markers? They look like they might be downright sloppy, which is surprising.
I've tried almost every fancy newer EMG, and always come back to the 81/85. They're simply the best pickups that EMG makes. There's a reason why they made those pickups in the first place. The Super 77 is an honorable mention.