Opeth - In Cauda Venenum (New Album 2019)

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  1. MAJ Meadows SF

    MAJ Meadows SF on a tone quest

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    I find the tone on Morningrise to be perfect for what they were shooting for. It's clear and cold which supports some of their blackened influences, showing off a musicianship clinic of melodies and bass throughout. The only detriment is the lack of heft to drumming and vocals, but frankly I'm so used to it, the thing would just be wrong otherwise. It's a very bleak melodic record, and the razor blade guitar tone seems to help, IMO. The bass work by John De Farfalla is stunning. It's an entirely separate argument over the lack of structure and ideas flowing into each other without much repeated motif, yet somehow it all resolved because of the melodic conclusion to each arrangement within each song. It's not catchy, so it's the most difficult album to follow, and I definitely understand the production qualms. For me, it works.
     
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  2. Lorcan Ward

    Lorcan Ward 7slinger

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    I'll never get tried of Children Of Bodom or In Flames clone bands. I've and endless list of melodic death metal bands to check out.
     
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    Agreed. It’s a very thin, distinctive sound that Swano gave to his other production jobs at the time (Edge of Sanity, Novembre’s early stuff) probably cause it was all he knew how to do since as the years went on he started sounding like every other modern metal album with their sound. But, that thin sound gives every instrument a clean space in the mix and since the first two Opeth albums, especially Morningrise, are practically just three instrument counterpoint sessions a lot of the time the hard-panned rhythm guitar parts and very loud and trebley bass are exactly the best sound. And the weird reverbs vocals give them a mysterious sound that fits perfectly with the songs. I think they’d sound really bad with the modern Opeth production. They kinda sound creakier on their live albums in a way the original albums don’t. Though part of that is Martin vastly dumbing down the Morningrise bass parts since he wouldn’t play on anything more than a four string!
     
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  4. p0ke

    p0ke 7-string guitard

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    What's up with that anyway? Was it supposed to fade out and they accidentally cut the fading or wtf :lol: The final acoustic part starts very abruptly too, so maybe it wasn't supposed to be there to begin with?
     
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    wankerness SS.org Regular

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    I always assumed it was on purpose? There are plenty of songs out there with abrupt cuts like that.
     
  6. p0ke

    p0ke 7-string guitard

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    Sure, it might be, but it just doesn't make any sense.
     
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    wankerness SS.org Regular

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    At the end of the song the narrator’s chilling in prison and starting to get used to it and passes out, and in White Cluster the executioners come knocking at his door and wake him up. So, it can be read to be his fitful rest being abruptly ended.

    More likely they kinda started writing themselves into a corner with those last riffs on Serenity Painted Death, couldn’t come up with an ending, and Mikael said “let’s just cut it off, not even with a fade-out” and the other guys said lolz.
     
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  8. p0ke

    p0ke 7-string guitard

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    Ah, sure, that's possible. I haven't given the lyrics any thought so I wouldn't know...
     
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    fps Kit

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    Allegedly it's because Mikael didn't want all the last 4 songs on the album to fade out.

    But in that case, write an ending? Like -> DU-DU DUH DU-DU DUH. DAH!
     
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    Not interested at all...they absolutely lost me after Peter Lindgren left.
     
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    I believe Pale Communion would be considered a prog classic and one of Opeth's best work in maybe 10 years time. Seeing them write in Swedish is a breath of fresh air, all positive hopes for this one.
     
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    First small 30 seconds of a new track are in this teaser:



    If we are going at this rate in 2 records, tops, we will be back at Prog-Death.
     
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    Lorcan Ward 7slinger

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    It has some slight early Opeth elements in it. I wouldn't guess it was them from hearing but I am getting excited they are going the Bodom route with a throwback sounding album.
     
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    @Lorcan Ward which Bodom album? Haven't listened to these guys since "Hate Crew Deathroll" as they started repeating themselves and getting super stale.

    Opeth - I wouldn't keep my hopes up until they don't get rid of the keyboardist. As long as there are keyboards there is bound to be some schlock, lets face it, John Lord he ain't :)
     
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    But they had keys on every single record, didn't they? And Ghost Reveries is easily part of their best output (personally best record, anyways) which had the first full time player.

    I have no idea where the problem with keys would be.
     
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    DLG not guthrie govan

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    Morningrise - Blackwater Park is Opeth's golden era. Keyboards were used very sparingly on those records.

    But I wouldn't say that having a keyboardist is their problem. It's more Mike wanting to ape his favorite 70s bands and doing so in rather boring fashion.
     
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    $10 says these are the most brutal moments on the album.
     
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    The keyboards really aren't integrated with the rest of the music in any substantial way before Damnation. There's some piano intros/outros on Blackwater Park/Deliverance, there's that organ/guitar solo epilogue and like 3 notes of piano in the intro on MAYH, there's a piano track on Orchid, but there's nothing that remotely sounds like there's a keyboard player as a full member of the band till D2/GR.
     
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    Triple7 The Decepticon

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    New single's up

     
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    Triple7 The Decepticon

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    aaaaaaannnnnnnnnddddddd it's gone
     

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