Nintendo Switch 2

[Alberto7]

I mean, it's not like the could strait-up celebrate price raising.

My theory is that they had no choice but to do it now. Their pricing today is sort of setting the precedent for the life of the console, and it's likely those price bumps would otherwise have happened industry-wide this generation either way. Everyone's been holding back waiting for someone else to go first - so there was a choice to be made between ripping the bandaid off now, or being behind the curve and leaving money on the table.

Nah, the price itself isn't my gripe, or that they don't celebrate it, it's just how they go about presenting the information disingenuously instead of being more forward about it. It had to happen one way or the other, but their communications teams just made some shitty decisions on how to deliver the message, which makes the whole thing feel kinda scummy even if it really isn't.

With that said... this made me lol


I'll still be attempting to get one at launch.

 

[lattjeful]

This is kinda nuts... I know the Series S has that RAM bottleneck with only 8 GB of usable RAM for games and it shouldn't be overlooked, but I'm starting to believe that Street Fighter 6 and a lot of Series S ports aren't that well optimized. I know the Switch 2 is plenty capable and Nvidia's software suite and development tools are second to none, but there's no way a tablet with the fraction of the power should be matching the Series S or even exceeding it.

I suppose money talks, and one of these is the successor to a system that sold 150 million units and counting VS the Xbox Series X's annoying little brother.

 

[StevenC]

I have trouble thinking this because I've seen the cost of games - as in the cost of creating them - and the cost of making games is insane. The amount of effort and art and time and sweat and crunch and drama and licensing and marketing and salaries and livelihoods and ideas and scrapped projects

Yeah, but don't you work for Sony?

Gamers about to learn how political life is when *all* consoles, accesories, and PC parts skyrocket in price

Games aren't going to learn shit.

 

[lattjeful]

Games aren't going to learn shit.

They won't. I've seen capital G Gamers say that they aren't going to buy a Switch 2 anymore because Nintendo "made it political" due to withdrawing preorders in the US. Nintendo is a business, and businesses exist to make money. Withdrawing preorders to either wait out the storm and hope the tariffs get withdrawn, or to discuss the price hikes that would be needed to maintain margins (or just take the loss after the PR shitstorm that was Mario Kart pricing) is literally the best thing to do for them.

It's also not "making it" political when the Switch 2 will inevitably be $500 or even $550 due to Trump's tariffs; it is inherently political because a politician is directly responsible for this. (Life itself is also political, but I digress...)

 

[Alberto7]

They won't. I've seen capital G Gamers say that they aren't going to buy a Switch 2 anymore because Nintendo "made it political" due to withdrawing preorders in the US. Nintendo is a business, and businesses exist to make money. Withdrawing preorders to either wait out the storm and hope the tariffs get withdrawn, or to discuss the price hikes that would be needed to maintain margins (or just take the loss after the PR shitstorm that was Mario Kart pricing) is literally the best thing to do for them.

It's also not "making it" political when the Switch 2 will inevitably be $500 or even $550 due to Trump's tariffs; it is inherently political because a politician is directly responsible for this. (Life itself is also political, but I digress...)

I love another "argument" I keep seeing: "Just make Switch 2 in America!"

1) Fuck you for calling it "America"

but more importantly:

2) Sure, let's have the Japanese company that sells videogames worldwide choose to build the system where it's most expensive just to cover a portion of their global market. Might as well fucking make it in Switzerland.

 

[StevenC]

I love another "argument" I keep seeing: "Just make Switch 2 in America!"

1) Fuck you for calling it "America"

but more importantly:

2) Sure, let's have the Japanese company that sells videogames worldwide choose to build the system where it's most expensive just to cover a portion of their global market. Might as well fucking make it in Switzerland.

Where it's most expensive and they still have to import all the parts.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Bluesky

bsky.app

We really are fucked

 

[Not The Same as Yours]

You're not my dad.

go clean your room kid

 

[wankerness]

Bluesky

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It just boggles the mind how fucking stupid these people are. I have to imagine they think wages in those countries like Vietnam are equivalent to wages in the us. Just looking at factory worker wages alone, If something costs 1/3 as much to put together in another country and isn’t being sold at a high profit margin then putting it together in the us will almost definitely result in the company tripling the price, all else being equal. Thus unless the tariffs increase the price 300% there’s no way these companies would move manufacturing here cause otherwise they’re still coming out ahead with the labor that’s 1/3 as much. I’m not sure about Vietnam, but in some of these countries it’s much lower than 1/3 of average us factory wages, too.

And of course that’s a whole separate issue to the fact that building a factory in the us takes about five years if rushed as fast as possible. And they’d have to find workers to fill it, and they’re actively deporting the main group of people that will actually work factory jobs. And ignoring the imported materials thing that would barely insulate it from tariffs.

 

[BlackMastodon]

Woah, damnedest thing, I found a picture of the people Americans mentioned above:

 

[lattjeful]

Bluesky

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Well your first mistake was going on ResetEra.

Trying to discuss the system on there is awful. Zero knowledge of how the tariffs work. Downplaying how good the hardware is. Saying the games are barely a leap forward. It’s all just… wrong on there.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Well your first mistake was going on ResetEra.

Trying to discuss the system on there is awful. Zero knowledge of how the tariffs work. Downplaying how good the hardware is. Saying the games are barely a leap forward. It’s all just… wrong on there.

Oh I know, I just like going there for the horrible takes lol. They all want a 1080p 120fps OLED screen with 10 hours of battery life for $350.

Like there's things I agree with being half-assed. Expensive games, the screen share being like 5fps being jank as shit, some performance upgrades for Switch 1 games being behind a paywall ... Console specs and price? Nah they're solid as hell. I'm curious about the analog sticks though. They didn't advertise them being hall effect so yeah

 

[lattjeful]

Oh I know, I just like going there for the horrible takes lol. They all want a 1080p 120fps OLED screen with 10 hours of battery life for $350.

Like there's things I agree with being half-assed. Expensive games, the screen share being like 5fps being jank as shit, some performance upgrades for Switch 1 games being behind a paywall ... Console specs and price? Nah they're solid as hell. I'm curious about the analog sticks though. They didn't advertise them being hall effect so yeah

The analog sticks are very weird, yeah. In those developer interviews, they said they're actually really proud of them. They're allegedly way smoother and more precise. Sounds to be it's still a good ol' analog stick with a pot, but maybe they've done some clever engineering to minimize drift and make it smoother like a Hall Effect stick.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

The analog sticks are very weird, yeah. In those developer interviews, they said they're actually really proud of them. They're allegedly way smoother and more precise. Sounds to be it's still a good ol' analog stick with a pot, but maybe they've done some clever engineering to minimize drift and make it smoother like a Hall Effect stick.

There's been rumors that they are hall effect, but I'm guessing it's new tech Nintendo worked out... I hope. Worst case scenario it's the same sticks lol.
I just hope it's still not whats used on the Xbox and PS5 sticks, those drift really easily too. Even the premium controllers get really bad drift.