- Aug 14, 2010
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Hello my friend! We decided on going with a 30-27"; I wanted it to sound tight. What scale length did you decide on? I hope the best of the build with your guitar!
We're thinking 25.5-28.5 (or 25-28.5). Tom talked with Garry, who said that a 30" C1# string will sound bassy inherently at that scale length, and if I want a guitar tone I should stick with 28.5" or shorter. He said he could build a string for any scale length to sound guitarlike. I tried emailing Garry to ask what he thought the best scale length would be for a C1# string, but his wife/employee emailed me back and said they don't offer advice on building guitars, and that I should leave it up to Tom, but they can build a string at any scale length to sound good. I was kind of disappointed with that answer, because certainly Garry must have some opinion about the ideal scale length for that string. And secondly my entire guitar is going to be designed around an O4P C1# and O4P A4, so I'd love input with him as to the best lengths. I'm just paraoid about building a shorter length with a lower pitch than on my current ERGs because it's counterintuitive that a longer scale length will sound more bass like, and that a thicker, shorter string will sound more guitarlike.
Tom also said that the 27-30 would work great for cleans, but the distortion will sound better at 28.5 (for the C1#) and I definitely want the distortion to sound good (i.e. like a guitar).
So I'm still not 100% sure on the scale length, But it looks like 25.5-28.5 will probably be the answer.
It's counterintuitive because it's wrong!
When it comes to low pitch:
- long, thin, flexible strings = stronger overtones = more twang & clarity = guitar-like tone
- short, thick, inflexible strings = suppressed overtones = more mud & rumble = more bass-like tone
Granted different players may have differing opinions on what makes a good guitar tone but unless you're coming from a more mellow hollow-body neck pickup jazz guitar kind of tone then I stand by my statement that longer = better. I'm assuming you're after a clear distorted tone in that low range that's desirable in a metal context.
Also, what's good for clean tones, longer as Tom says, is also good for distortion. I'm not sure what Tom's reasoning is, does he listen to extreme metal such as Meshuggah? But at any rate I've proven to myself through my own instrument designs that longer scales are far easier to achieve clear distorted tones from than shorter.
I'm basing my opinion on my own collection of instruments with scales ranging from 25.5" to 28.5" to 30" to 32" and 36" and 15 years of research and development with pickups and multi-scale designs.
Trust me Holloway, I am NO geius when it comes to guitars.
The whole point of this thread was to talk about the 10 string
No worries man