Mustaine left Dean and went to Gibson/Epiphone/Kramer

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Oh dear... The dots, sharp headstock angle, curved tip, logo shape, fat and awkwardly situated V plate, position of strap button, bevels starting in the middle of the body. I'm getting strong knock-off vibes here. YMMV!
It's almost as if Mustaine had a hand in designing both guitars. I know, absolutely shocking he'd carry over specs he liked on one guitar onto another guitar. :lol:
The red burst Epiphone… has… Fluences. 🤣
All the Prophecy line guitars have them. Even the Cantrell one. The "proper" Epi sig has Duncans.

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The actual fuck up is using a 24.75'' scale when he made a pretty big deal about the 25.5'' scale on the Gibson.
 

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It's almost as if Mustaine had a hand in designing both guitars. I know, absolutely shocking he'd carry over specs he liked on one guitar onto another guitar. :lol:

All the Prophecy line guitars have them. Even the Cantrell one. The "proper" Epi sig has Duncans.

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The actual fuck up is using a 24.75'' scale when he made a pretty big deal about the 25.5'' scale on the Gibson.
They probably didn’t want to shell out for the tooling. The Kramer vs. Kramers are 25-1/2”. 1685493123266.png
 

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Pop Quiz: What was Dave’s original silver King V made of? Was it mahogany/mahogany, alder/maple, poplar/maple, something else?
 

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Pop Quiz: What was Dave’s original silver King V made of? Was it mahogany/mahogany, alder/maple, poplar/maple, something else?

Either popular and maple or alder and maple.
There was this website that had a whole detailed history and specs of Mustaine old Jackson's but I can't for the life of me find it. Like iirc they had order forms and everything.
 

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There was this website that had a whole detailed history and specs of Mustaine old Jackson's but I can't for the life of me find it. Like iirc they had order forms and everything.
Mastermind - tribute to Dave Mustaine's guitars over the years or something like that. Went offline some time ago but can be mostly accessed with the wayback machine.

Pretty sure the ones he's known for (black and silver KVs with the Kahler APM3310 bridge) are poplar/maple with ebony board. In '94/'95 ish he started using a bunch of different models that were a mixture of poplar/maple, alder/maple and korina. All ebony boards. Y2KV and everything since have been mahogany/mahogany/ebony I believe.
 

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Zoom in on the red burst V. That burst is pitiful. Look at the uneven line of the fade
 

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There's already like two other threads about this lol.

And I already preordered the RIP Kramer. :)

Too bad they're all hideous...

And how are those kramers not lawsuit material?

Why would they be lawsuit material?
 

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There's already like two other threads about this lol.

And I already preordered the RIP Kramer. :)



Why would they be lawsuit material?
They might be if they had used KV (or whatever his Dean models are called) proportions, or a Jackson/Dean headstock. Gibson are the kings of suing companies that use their designs so they know better than to do this.

To my eye, the Kramers have somewhat "fatter" wings than a KV.
 

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Not "supposedly", they were officially released yesterday. I got the email yesterday and a bunch of dealers already got some in stock
 

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That's not it. This one has pages for literally each guitar he got. I think @BenSolace is right
I remember it. Anyway it's a safe bet that any American Jackson from before the mid 90s is popular maple or alder maple. The catalogs switched from saying popular to alder in the mid 90s but I wouldn't be surprised if they were used interchangeably before then.
 
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