MIJ Ibby Vs. MIA Kiesel?

Discussion in 'Sevenstring Guitars' started by Carl Kolchak, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. Mathemagician

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    Whatever you like more. Assuming you don’t go nuts with top options on the kiesel you’re likely to be happy with either.
     
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    Ibanez MIJ have an extremely long track record of being quality instruments. Kiesel has a good track record too, but nowhere near them.
     
  4. Carl Kolchak

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    I was watching this rather intently, as you could imagine, but one thing that the Guitar Pit guy didn't touch on that I really wishing he would've and that is Kiesel's problematic customer service.

    Also, I hate Hipshot bridges! :)
     
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    I'll invoke the mojo gods here and say that every Carvin/Kiesel I owned had no tone/soul. It's like they build their guitars out of whatever lumber they find/can get the best price on a' la they play like furniture as I've seen it said before. It's as if they're too stiff and the wrong pickins of wood to comprise a resonant guitar. Opposed to the Prestige's I've owned which all sounded wonderful. Kiesel doesn't apparently employ the little Japanese shaman mystic who goes into the forest to caress and bless the trees that will eventually become Ibanez Prestige guitars.
     
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    :lol: Indeed. Conversely, I sold my Prestige S because it sounded like plastic, and had terrible pickups. I sold it after i received my first Carvin, and my ash and maple Aries seems to resonates more than any guitar i can remember owning. *shrugs*
     
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    Kiesel and Ibanez are two of my three favorite guitar brands. You can’t go wrong with either. Just pick your flavor. :)
     
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    Only worry about resale if you're a serial flipper/gear whore. Guitars are awful investments unless you're incredibly lucky.

    Truth is, you'll take a bath on both, so don't let that sway you.

    Both have the potential to make quality guitars, so really you can't go wrong on that front.

    It's going to come down purely to preference. Both have significantly different necks and hardware, the two parts of the guitar you come in contact with the most.
     
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    Yeah I got some killer Prestige’s in mint condition between $650 and 800. Great deal on the used market.

    Kiesel seems to hold their resale more as of late.
     
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    TBH - if we are talking used I would personally try to find a Kiesel that I liked because I have had prestige and have never tried Kiesel.

    Usually (going back some years) I would always have to replace the crap Ibanez pickups as well. No big deal but it could be a factor.

    I would never buy a new Kiesel just based off everything already stated on here.

    So if we are talking new - Ibanez
    Used - Kiesel

    This is simply because I have never owned a Kiesel so my opinion probably shouldn't count as I cannot compare the 2.
     
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    If looking at used, Carvin/Kiesel have always had shit resale value, because they have to be discounted more to distance themselves from the appeal of just ordering new to get the spec you really want, instead of "settling." So good for shoppers of Carvin/Kiesel, and then since that original owner took the lion's share of the "hit", you should lose less if you decide to sell it.
     
  12. Carl Kolchak

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    All the used Prestiges and Kiesels I'm seeing atm are pricey to the point of negating shopping for used ones.
     
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    Buddy of mine ordered a few Kiesels, pretty fancy ones that he took his time speccing out.
    His 8 string is one of the most resonant guitars ive played!
     
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    Pretty sure all new Kiesel have hipshot bridges except maybe the new Delos which has an optional Gotoh 6 point. So that pretty much leaves you with Ibanez or a used Kiesel with a Floyd.
     
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    My chambered black limba Vader 8 is also my most resonant guitar.
     
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    Funny enough, my buddy's 8 is also black limba!
    Gotta keep that wood on the low!
     
  17. Carl Kolchak

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    Seen a couple of new Kiesels with normal tone-o-matic bridges on their site. ;)
     
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    Why hate hipshot? Flat is much better than angled IMO.
     
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    I just find tune-o-matics much easier to play and to do palm mutes with.
     
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    To each their own. That is my least favorite bridge haha.

    I actually did a test to recording/click track and I play faster on a flat bridge/Floyd vs. a TOM.

    With that said I have a Les Paul and the TOM does work and it is not like you cannot play fast, just slightly more difficult imo.
     

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