Mesa amps opinions

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  1. efiltsohg

    efiltsohg SS.org Regular

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    I used to have one, when I bought it I compared to every other Mesa in the store and it had both the best cleans and a best unboosted gain to my ears
     
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    No love for the Mesa Express 50 watters or head version? Those were really good Marshall clones.
     
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    budda Guiterrorizer Contributor

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    You mean the stilettos?
     
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    Descent SS.org Regular

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    eightsixboy あなたのお母さんを犯さ

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    Wouldn't exactly call them a Marshall anything, they just replaced the F series with re worked gain channels. Express series had epic cleans but weird flabby gain structure, wasn't bitey like a Marshall and wasn't tight like a mark series either, even the EQ versions where very meh.

    The only boogie that was meant to be like a Marshall was the stiletto series but even they missed the mark. The newer TC series is meant to be good but the vids fluff and others have posted on youtube they still had that typical mushy mesa lower mid thing happening.

    IMO the only boogies worth getting are the mark series and their more cleaner style amps ie lone star.
     
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    MASS DEFECT SS.ORG Infiltrator

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    Wait. I thought the Triple Crown was supposed to be their take on the British sound. Can't it do at least a bit of that Marshall crunch on Ch2? Like how the EVH 50 watts can approximate that snarl.
     
  7. KnightBrolaire

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    I'm pretty sure the TC is just a reworked Royal Atlantic circuit. There's a video floating around of a back to back comparison of the two and they sound damn near identical. It definitely has some marshall flavor from what I've heard, but of course it's dependent on how it's dialed in. Shit I can get hot rodded marshall tones from my mk3 depending on how I dial it in.

     
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    ^You certainly can get a Cameron type hot rod sound from your Mk3!

    The RA has more presence in that vid. But yeah, the sound footprint is almost identical.
     
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    cardinal F# Dive Bomber

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    Yeah, I think there are plenty of records from the '80s where it is assumed the guy is using a modded Marshall but really it was a Mark III. John Sykes with his III Coliseums are what immediately come to mind.
     
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    This guy did a spot on Sykes tone with his JP2C.

     
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    HeHasTheJazzHands greg rulz ok

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    The slight sagginess, saturation, and high-mid bite of the Mark III makes me think they were trying to do a modded Marshall-esque sound with it. At least the blue/green stripe.
     
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    StrmRidr Hide your Jacksons

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    This is the key with the Mark amps. Once you figure this out, the amps are not that hard to dial in. The BMT will change the character of the sound, but the real EQing happens with the graphic EQ.
     
  13. LiveOVErdrive

    LiveOVErdrive CNC hack

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    Good place to start:
    Set mid and treble at noon. Use your bass knob as a tight-to-lush control. Want tight rhythm? Set it at zero, turn it up a little if that's too dry. Want creamy leads, turn it up a little more. If it's too flubby, turn it down.
     
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    The way I EQ my DR Tremoverb, Red channel, is I set the treble between 5:00 / 3:00 then use the presence as a treble knob. Raising mids also adds treble. Bass I set it at 10:00 / 11:00. Gain at 1:00.
     
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    Wizard of Ozz Arch-Mage of Metal

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    Except it will sound better than any Cameron HG Jose, Aldrich, Ocean, et al.

    The MK3s totally do modified Marshall 2203 tones with ease.
     
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    You guys are making me want to buy the MkIII Blue Stripe on sale locally. I have only tried a Red Stripe, and that was hairy and aggressive as hell and had gobs of gain. I wonder if the Blue Stripe can do that.

    But I already have a JP2C, and the members at Gear Page and Boogie forums say that it can get close to a Blue Stripe. I don't know anymore. All these stripe things are confusing for me.
     
  17. KnightBrolaire

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    ehh I've talked with people who've tried most of the stripes and the differences really aren't thaaat huge. Mine is technically a black stripe/no stripe and it sounds mean as hell.
     
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    LiveOVErdrive CNC hack

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    That means you've got the same PT as a iic+, which apparently makes it less saggy. Supposedly.

    I really want a iii recently. Is it gonna be all that different/better than my mkv?
     
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    That's good to know. Locally, most that have popped up are blue stripes. although the red stripe I tried had too much presence and brightness for me. But it was rabid aggressive because of it.
     
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    The IV and V are generally smoother/thicker sounding than the IIIs from what I've read/experienced. They can all be dialed in to sound relatively similar to each other, it's just that the III has a certain je nais sais quois my IV didn't (I think there's a bigger spike in the upper mids on the III). I a/b'd my mk4 against my mk3 and ended up keeping the mk3 because I love that extra bit of rawness/aggression. If you get a chance, try to a/b your V against the III.
    Supposedly blue stripes are the most aggressive sounding and brightest, but just run the treble below like 7 and you'll prob be fine. My black stripe is stupidly bright above 7 or 8 (depending on the guitar I use).
     
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