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If you really love everything about it other than this and it's not causing any playability problems, I'd keep it.

The strings look centered over the 24th fret, which means the bridge is corrected placed and is a much bigger deal IMHO. This is the first thing I look at in pictures when I'm thinking of buying a guitar. It's amazing how often the alignment is terrible.
^ this , it's amazing how many beautiful Jacksons and Ibanez RG's I've passed on because the floyd posts were not drilled in correctly.
Strings pulling off of the edge of the fret board is a deal breaker for me , hell it should be a deal breaker for everyone.
Sadly jackson is not the only company guilty of this
Zooming in on yours, does not look to bad if you can move the locking nut over a tad you should be Ok.
have a tech re center it for you.
 

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I'm in the same boat, did you actually got the an AM Solist SL3 ?

The guitar is mostly convincing except the Floyd Rose 1500, which for a guitar of this price i would expect better.
Played one at both Matt's Music and Axe Palace. They were very good. No issues with the 4 I've seen in person, all played very very well. I know both shops sent back a few, but my impressions were very good.

The Floyd Rose 1500 is fine. The only real difference between it and the Schaller-made OFR is the stainless steel parts, which are an upgrade unless you don't like the 2 tone hardware thing, and the arm attachment being push-in. Floyd arms have had bad fit QC for a long-ass time and I'd call the push-in arm an upgrade, too.
 
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^ this , it's amazing how many beautiful Jacksons and Ibanez RG's I've passed on because the floyd posts were not drilled in correctly.
Strings pulling off of the edge of the fret board is a deal breaker for me , hell it should be a deal breaker for everyone.
Sadly jackson is not the only company guilty of this
Zooming in on yours, does not look to bad if you can move the locking nut over a tad you should be Ok.
have a tech re center it for you.
Misaligned trem posts should fail QC, but I've seen ESP, Ibanez, Jackson, and even a Suhr that shipped with this issue over the past 10 years.

If it's used, or you love the guitar otherwise, this is like a $50-75 fix at your local (REPUTABLE) repair guy. So, not the end of the world. Not that it should ever happen with CNC machines being used by every major manufacturer.
 

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Speaking of these Jacksons--I'm seeing some pretty solid deals on them now. It looks like some retailers are trying to move them, which tells me they might not be selling all that well. But that's just wild speculation on my part.
 
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Speaking of these Jacksons--I'm seeing some pretty solid deals on them now. It looks like some retailers are trying to move them, which tells me they might not be selling all that well. But that's just wild speculation on my part.
I was under the opposite impression. Granted, my sample size is two local shops. Which is hardly representative. Both my local Jackson dealers have only had a few "in stock" for the wall, but have sold many more than that which never hit their websites because they were spoken-for and ordered for customers.
 

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Speaking of these Jacksons--I'm seeing some pretty solid deals on them now. It looks like some retailers are trying to move them, which tells me they might not be selling all that well. But that's just wild speculation on my part.
The import stuff seems to fly off shelves. I’ve never seen any of the US built stuff in a shop ever though.
 

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I was under the opposite impression. Granted, my sample size is two local shops. Which is hardly representative. Both my local Jackson dealers have only had a few "in stock" for the wall, but have sold many more than that which never hit their websites because they were spoken-for and ordered for customers.

I hope they're doing well, because I want to see more in this line. I'm just basing it on some discounted listings on Reverb. It looks like some dealers are doing the whole "open-box" thing to sell at a discount. I saw the same thing with the Jackson MJ series, which have never seemed to be in high demand. But, again, it's completely wild speculation.
 

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I've seen these used in a couple of forums as low as $1,700
 

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So I finally saw one of these in black at a shop, it was one that they didn’t want anyone to play unless you were serious about buying. It was on the floor so I gave it a real good look over, after seeing the sloppy fret and neck work I was immediately not interested. It looked cheap, I passed by it twice before I realized it wasn’t just a cheap import. Not impressed at all for 2.7k.
 

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So I finally saw one of these in black at a shop, it was one that they didn’t want anyone to play unless you were serious about buying. It was on the floor so I gave it a real good look over, after seeing the sloppy fret and neck work I was immediately not interested. It looked cheap, I passed by it twice before I realized it wasn’t just a cheap import. Not impressed at all for 2.7k.

You mean frets sprout or frets badly leveled or crowned? What about the finish?
 

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I played a white one in GC a bit ago and I thought it was a pretty nice guitar. Fretwork was as you would expect from an American Fender and the guitar was marked down to 2200 which is IMO a fair deal for the guitar. I'd probably still go used to save a few more hundred though.
 

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So I finally saw one of these in black at a shop, it was one that they didn’t want anyone to play unless you were serious about buying. It was on the floor so I gave it a real good look over, after seeing the sloppy fret and neck work I was immediately not interested. It looked cheap, I passed by it twice before I realized it wasn’t just a cheap import. Not impressed at all for 2.7k.
Not to sound like a fanboy here, but that's not terribly specific in terms of complaints. I've played several of these at two different stores and been impressed. That's just my subjective experience though.

Of course, I know that both those shops have a high bar for QC and send tons of stuff back to manufacturers. But that's hardly specific to this series or Jackson.
 

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Not to sound like a fanboy here, but that's not terribly specific in terms of complaints. I've played several of these at two different stores and been impressed. That's just my subjective experience though.

Of course, I know that both those shops have a high bar for QC and send tons of stuff back to manufacturers. But that's hardly specific to this series or Jackson.
This stuff is all very area dependent. Fender and Jackson US stuff is in Corona, CA. I’m in OH. If the shop doesn’t do anything about it, EVERY guitar will have fret sprout. It gives you a really warped perception, because you can play something like an EJ strat at a shop that just took it out of the box and put it on the wall, and think it’s a POS. Then go to another shop, that actually plays the guitars before they hang them up, and think the player series strats are amazing. In all actuality, they’re both great guitars. One just didn’t get the same TLC, and looks worse, instead of better, because of it
 

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This stuff is all very area dependent. Fender and Jackson US stuff is in Corona, CA. I’m in OH. If the shop doesn’t do anything about it, EVERY guitar will have fret sprout. It gives you a really warped perception, because you can play something like an EJ strat at a shop that just took it out of the box and put it on the wall, and think it’s a POS. Then go to another shop, that actually plays the guitars before they hang them up, and think the player series strats are amazing. In all actuality, they’re both great guitars. One just didn’t get the same TLC, and looks worse, instead of better, because of it
Absolutely. Some people have unrealistic expectations, or don't know this stuff works. I won't say though, that they won't ship a lemon every so often, because that absolutely happens. Anecdotally, FMIC is having issues with fret dressing and leveling across all models coming out of the Corona, CA factory.

When I lived in a tiny town in Southwest Michigan you couldn't find anything in my area in stock. For a time in high school WWBW in South Bend, IN had high end stuff in stock, but that was it. Despite this, they just unboxed things and put them up on the wall and never did any kind of set-up. Everything had fret sprout.

The local GC could order you things, but they would never stock anything nice. When it would come in they'd never do anything to it, just hand over the box to you. Not that you want the average GC employee working on anything.

In AZ I had a very good local shop in Tucson, Rainbow Guitars. They did this extra look-over. But due to the climate there, paint shrinkage, super dry fretboards, and fret sprout we're the rule. They would do what they could, but only after something was bought. Otherwise they'd spend countless hours setting up stuff to hang on the wall. They stopped carrying Ibanez because they sent so many back.

In Boston there are two very good shops that I would buy anything from here and not assume anything would need work because I know how picky they are (in one case, maybe a bit pickier than I would be).
 
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Absolutely. Some people have unrealistic expectations, or don't know this stuff works. I won't say though, that they won't ship a lemon every so often though, because that absolutely happens. Anecdotally, FMIC is having issues with fret dressing and leveling across all models coming out of the Corona, CA factory.

When I lived in a tiny town in Southwest Michigan you couldn't find anything in my area in stock. For a time in high school WWBW in South Bend, IN had high end stuff in stock, but that was it. Despite this, they just unboxed things and put them up on the wall and never did any kind of set-up. Everything had fret sprout.

The local GC could order you things, but they would never stock anything nice. When it would come in they'd never do anything to it, just hand over the box to you. Not that you want the average GC employee working on anything.

In AZ I had a very good local shop in Tucson, Rainbow Guitars. They did this extra look-over. But due to the climate there, paint shrinkage, super dry fretboards, and fret sprout we're the rule. They would do what they could, but only after something was bought. Otherwise they'd spend countless hours setting up stuff to hang on the wall. They stopped carrying Ibanez because they sent so many back.

In Boston there are two very good shops that I would buy anything from here and not assume anything would need work because I know how picky they are (in one case, maybe a bit pickier than I would be).
I’m torn on whether the situation in NE Ohio is good or bad. For Gibson, Fender, and Martin, we have a couple _really_ nice dealers, and an excellent repair shop / luthier. For everything else, SamAsh is definitely better than GC, but there’s no way to get your hands on high end BC Rich, Ibanez, ESP, Jackson, etc. here. The guitar buyers with money here want the boomer stuff. I’ve still never played a Select series Jackson or an ESP Original series, despite owning an 80s San Dimas-era Rhoads.
 

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I’m torn on whether the situation in NE Ohio is good or bad. For Gibson, Fender, and Martin, we have a couple _really_ nice dealers, and an excellent repair shop / luthier. For everything else, SamAsh is definitely better than GC, but there’s no way to get your hands on high end BC Rich, Ibanez, ESP, Jackson, etc. here. The guitar buyers with money here want the boomer stuff. I’ve still never played a Select series Jackson or an ESP Original series, despite owning an 80s San Dimas-era Rhoads.
This sounds very familiar to me. In MI I lived in that small town near the Indiana border, Lansing/East Lansing, and Kalamazoo. No high end stuff other than Fender/Gibson and similar boutique brands. You'd never find a USA Jackson, ESP Original, Prestige or higher Ibanez there at any stores in the places I lived. I bought my SL2H without ever seeing one in person back in the day, ordered from GC because that was the only option.

Rainbow back in Tucson basically stopped carrying anything other than Fender, Gibson, and PRS now because rich retirees buy them and their metal guy that pushed Jackson, ESP, and Ibanez passed away.

Gear availability in Boston is good due to Berklee students here and lots of rich people. But in general, with it easier than ever to buy online and independent stores having a rough time, they're going to double down on Fender, Gibson, etc.

If you have good repair people there then you're probably okay.
 

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@Zado @groverj3 so the things that I noticed were poorly crowned frets mostly, there was also a significant amount of paint on the fretboard edge (in multiple spots) that bled into the fretboard. It was pretty ugly. It looked like a poorly made import guitar.
 

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Have yet to play one of these american series soloists, but the MIJ stuff has been awesome in my few experiences, and they use a gotoh floyd which in my humble opinion is better than the german one even.
 

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@Zado @groverj3 so the things that I noticed were poorly crowned frets mostly, there was also a significant amount of paint on the fretboard edge (in multiple spots) that bled into the fretboard. It was pretty ugly. It looked like a poorly made import guitar.

How poorly crowned?

Yeah, the finish work on these, especially the black for some reason, is pretty rough on the ones I've tried. Good fretwork on what I've had my hands on so far though.
 
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