It's official, a """Pantera reunion""" is happening.

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I suppose that it's really important for public figures at any level when drafting their will to address whether they're OK with with a posthumous Funk Pop likeness of themself being sold.
 
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You mean under 20 IQ? Then I could see how Slayer would be cool
If I were smart enough to figure out what that meant I'm sure I'd be offended.
Slayer has always been a terrible band known more for their "satanic" imagery than they ever were for their music.
Time and place, bro. I know it's cool to shit on them forty years after the fact, but there's a reason they're one of the Big Four. Kerry aside, and the silly imagery that they almost let become a parody at some points, they were a fairly well respected band within the thrash genre at its inception and for the first decade plus.

Not that I'll defend their reputation today. Fuck that noise. But 80s Slayer > most bands today.tttttt

I still think they should have stuck to their guns and kept the name Dragonslayer. What a different world that would have been, seen as the consummate nerds, rather than the consummate satanic dumbasses.
 

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Time and place, bro. I know it's cool to shit on them forty years after the fact, but there's a reason they're one of the Big Four.

Mate, I am Gen X. I was there. The only reason Slayer were there is because Seasons went Gold and it was hard to find any other thrash band that moved enough albums. MTV's Headbanger's Ball played a massive part in that. To that end, Slayer and Anthrax got added to the Big 4, but they aren't even freaking close to the album sales of Metallica and Megadeth.
 
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Mate, I am Gen X. I was there. The only reason Slayer were there is because Seasons went Gold and it was hard to find any other thrash band that moved enough albums. MTV's Headbanger's Ball played a massive part in that. To that end, Slayer and Anthrax got added to the Big 4, but they aren't even freaking close to the album sales of Metallica and Megadeth.
Hey man, I'd love to argue Big Four by merit, rather than record sales, but that's not how the world works.

My big four list would have to include:
Testament
Exodus
Overkill

But Slayer's always been a big fish in the small pond. Long, long before Seasons everybody but EVERYBODY knew who Slayer was. Heck, most kids grandparents knew who Slayer was.

Granted, they weren't the freakin aircraft carrier that Metallica was, nor the light frigate Megadeth was, but they certainly weren't a peanuts band at the time. Everybody knew who they were. The same can't be said of most of the bands I listened to at the time.
 

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I never said they were peanuts. Everyone knew Slayer, because the imagery created a disproportionate amount of media coverage. Suburban moms wanted their records burned - even though their metal fan children didn't buy their records. Slayer is a the luckiest band in the world because they were able to make a career out of press coverage.
 

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That Funko thing is incredibly very un-Pantera. I can't wait for the Mayhem set?

And I had a pop up on my phone of all things asking if I wanted to buy tickets for the "Pantera" show near me. $500 for a pit ticket. Um, no thanks.
 

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If you form your opinions about a band or genre on who their fanbase are or how they behave, then there's practically no band you can listen to or like.

I understand the idea, though. That's probably why most of my friends aren't metalheads (or even musicians, let alone guitar players). Luckily I can listen to Seasons In The Abyss once in a while without feeling the need to carve Slayer's logo in my arm.

Like my band! There's nothing bad you can say about our fans. Nothing...


GAHHH HOW COULD THEY DO THIS SELLING RACIST MERCHANDISE!!!!

I'M LITERALLY SEETHING. CANCEL FUNKO POPS :rant2:

Why is James Hetfield the bass player?!

I'm not buying this if Phil doesn't come with a crackpipe in his hand and Dime doesn't come with the official bullet hole of authenticity. Gotta be authentic to the legends. GETCHA PULL!

I mean, they somehow made Phil look high... I guess that's something.

Hey man, I'd love to argue Big Four by merit, rather than record sales, but that's not how the world works.

My big four list would have to include:
Testament
Exodus
Overkill

But Slayer's always been a big fish in the small pond. Long, long before Seasons everybody but EVERYBODY knew who Slayer was. Heck, most kids grandparents knew who Slayer was.

Granted, they weren't the freakin aircraft carrier that Metallica was, nor the light frigate Megadeth was, but they certainly weren't a peanuts band at the time. Everybody knew who they were. The same can't be said of most of the bands I listened to at the time.

The big four by record sales...

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis
3. Michael Jackson
4. Elton John

Oh, you mean metal?

1. Metallica
2. no one else comes anywhere near enough to even vaguely justify that there's a #2 because Metallica has sold over 100 million albums and the next one would be Megadeth with under 40 million. Slayer has sold, what, maybe 2.5 M units?

Even if you go by 80's sales before Metallica blew up to be huge, they were still way more well-known than Slayer and Anthrax. The "Big Four" was always a silly classification. Might as well try to make a list of the four biggest types of elephant- Asian, African, and umm... IDK, black rhinoceros or something...
 

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Like my band! There's nothing bad you can say about our fans. Nothing...



Why is James Hetfield the bass player?!



I mean, they somehow made Phil look high... I guess that's something.



The big four by record sales...

1. The Beatles
2. Elvis
3. Michael Jackson
4. Elton John

Oh, you mean metal?

1. Metallica
2. no one else comes anywhere near enough to even vaguely justify that there's a #2 because Metallica has sold over 100 million albums and the next one would be Megadeth with under 40 million. Slayer has sold, what, maybe 2.5 M units?

Even if you go by 80's sales before Metallica blew up to be huge, they were still way more well-known than Slayer and Anthrax. The "Big Four" was always a silly classification. Might as well try to make a list of the four biggest types of elephant- Asian, African, and umm... IDK, black rhinoceros or something...
While that's all true, it doesn't change the fact that among the metal moron brigade, of which I was a proud member back then, everybody had the big four in their rotation, even if most are loathe to admit it today. Metallica blew up because they sold outside the metal circles. A lot. Especially past Justice. The others never really did much, except maybe, *MAYBE* Megamave. Lots of radidio play from them. Didn't hear much Hell Awaits, South of Heaven, Reign in Blood outside the college stations back then.
 

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I never said they were peanuts. Everyone knew Slayer, because the imagery created a disproportionate amount of media coverage. Suburban moms wanted their records burned - even though their metal fan children didn't buy their records. Slayer is a the luckiest band in the world because they were able to make a career out of press coverage.
So you're saying that Slayer is the Paris Hilton of metal? Or are they more of a Kim Kardashian?
 

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Mate, I am Gen X. I was there. The only reason Slayer were there is because Seasons went Gold and it was hard to find any other thrash band that moved enough albums. MTV's Headbanger's Ball played a massive part in that. To that end, Slayer and Anthrax got added to the Big 4, but they aren't even freaking close to the album sales of Metallica and Megadeth.
I was there too I'm 50 in two months... and as a french it was hard enough to get metal music at all to begin with, and we didn't get MTV to boot. The thing that pushed Slayer was that Reign in Blood was a landmark album production-wise. It sure sounds amateurish today compared to the Andy Sneap abominations, but in the day it was THE brutal sounding record, while not going to the extremes of newer bands like Cannibal Corpse, which I was never able to get into because of the cookie monster vocals. Likewise, "decade of aggression" sounds nothing special today, but was an awesome sounding live record back then.
 

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Slayer has always been a terrible band known more for their "satanic" imagery than they ever were for their music.

And the funniest thing is that the singer is actually catholic. What a bunch of tools.

Everytime I tell that to an unaware Slayer fan I silently enjoy the look on their faces :lol:
 
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