It was only a matter of time....Archetype Rabea. Ok then

[Emperoff]

Another NeuralDSP plugin incoming

No idea what that is!

www.sevenstring.org

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Sorry for asking, but who's that Rabea guy? Is he in a band I should have listened to?

Although not mainly known for that, his old band Toska has a couple of fantastic albums (pretty much in the vein of the demo track).

 

[Legion]

Another NeuralDSP plugin incoming

No idea what that is!

www.sevenstring.org

Thread merge?

do it

 

[Netherhound]

Archetype - Deez Nutz

 

[Crungy]

I like his playing and riffage and generally like his videos. I haven't bought anything he's demoed, but his video on the Walrus Slo had me itching for one.

That aside, I don't think I'll be buying any NDSP stuff.

 

[profwoot]

Both of Toska's albums are great, and his Grinding Gears albums are all great as well. Youtube is still his main thing, just like Misha's various non-Periphery hustles are his main thing. The guy can write and play, and is also making a living as a musician, so legit enough for me.

 

[nickgray]

You turn the mids below 11 o'clock and the plugin softlocks your DAW and complains for 15 minutes about the guitar being a midrange instrument

Protip: you can bypass the softlock by playing 5 Judas Priest riffs.

If you plug in a Gibson your system bluescreens.

If the VST detects you're doing too many takes, you'll start getting snarky comments by Glenn about your general incompetence.

If you plug in a bass with ever so slightly old strings... may god help you.

 

[nickgray]

 

[Legion]

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LMFAO

 

[Mathemagician]

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I just nostalgia’s so hard I did a physical head whip motion.

Spider 2 baby!!!!!!!

 

[Legion]

Fucking Line 6 --> Curve 9 is KILLING me

 

[Giest]

Gotta be honest. Absolute snore. Lots of held notes with little phrasing relevance, little shredding, and total lack of interesting rhythms. Reeks of corporate slapped together bullshit.

 

[Dayn]

I'm really enjoying the effects and the synth tracks super well. I'm having a blast with it. If I can get it on sale I'll grab it, but I already have a swathe of plugins already.

I can't say I'm surprised to see so many people ragging on the name without trying the sound, even on the NeuralDSP page. Everyone knows that tone is in the name.

 

[Jamiecrain]

I'd never heard of Rabea until I saw this demo video. I loved it. The way the tune builds and constantly keeps drawing you in. To be honest I didn't pay any attention to the NDSP!

 

[narad]

It's not about his skills, I just think he's marketed way beyond his significance/contribution to the guitar world. That orchestrated campaign across various YT channels is a little ridiculous. Peter Honoré (yeah, I know: who's that again?) also got a little carried away with the title for his ad. "Archetype: Rabea plugin from Neural DSP - Legendary tones from an absolute legend.". Going right for the top-shelf wording, how's he going to call Steve Vai or John Petrucci?

It's the british sense. I've seen people be "absolute legends" for showing up with a pizza.

 

[Jonathan20022]

I don't get how the target demographic keeps buying these expensive plugins, I rocked a Digitech Multieffects pedal for 6 years before I found an Axe FX 2 for 1600 and rode that for the last 8 years.

Do guitarists just associate their tone fatigue to their gear and endlessly upgrade because someone else's rig and presets sound fresh?

I upgraded to the Neural Quad Cortex last year and it is great, but I'm not going to feed anyone snake oil that it sounds astronomically better than my Axe 2 did My favorite thing about the thing is the interface, and the pitch shifting algorithms because that functionally adds something the Axe couldn't do very well.

 

[Lemonbaby]

Given the fact you only get three amp models and 7 pedals, it seems a little expensive to me. However, these plugins are obviously sold to fans who want the very sound of "that one guitarist", be it Plini, Tim Henson or Rabea Massad. In this case it might be a good buy, even if it lacks the flexibility of a Line6 Helix Native.

It's the british sense. I've seen people be "absolute legends" for showing up with a pizza.

Not much different from the USofA, where everything's "awesome" and "genius".

 

[GunpointMetal]

Sorry for asking, but who's that Rabea guy? Is he in a band I should have listened to?

He was in Toska and has several solo releases, all good stuff if you like riffy post-metal. His likeable personality and YouTube personality overshadow his excellent music, unfortunately.

 

[GunpointMetal]

I don't get how the target demographic keeps buying these expensive plugins, I rocked a Digitech Multieffects pedal for 6 years before I found an Axe FX 2 for 1600 and rode that for the last 8 years.

Do guitarists just associate their tone fatigue to their gear and endlessly upgrade because someone else's rig and presets sound fresh?

Yes. Probably 85% of guitarists who talk about gear on the internet are trying harder to get subs on their YouTube channel than finishing songs or playing shows. Active musicians don't have time to worry about owning 35 different plugins that all do the same thing. I've been using pretty much nothing but Helix and Helix Native since it came out, added a few IR packs, but otherwise I'm too busy playing when I have time to music versus having FOMO over some overpriced plugin that I can pull all the sounds out of what I already have if I need to.

 

[Mathemagician]

An “artist” I’ve never heard of with tone/sound I couldn’t pick out of a random playlist. This must be aimed at younger cats. I guess I gotta accept my age lol.

 

[Crungy]

Youngins or those who are glued to those type of youtubers. Or gear "golfers" that think the next new shiny thing will make them a better player.