I need to play meshuggah

[Calija]

Im in school right now and Im trying to convinve my music teacher that meshuggah is in fact jazz therefore I should be allowed to play it for my jazz performance exam later this year. While I dont know enough about jazz to point out the similarities myself, Ive seen a lot of people claim meshuggah is jazz and Im looking for some evindence of that to show my music teacher.
The song Im looking to do is dancers to a discordant system and there are a few comments saying that its inspired by jazz but as I said I dont have the knowledge of jazz to provide evidence myself.
People who know music theory please help this is very important I have to play meshuggah so I can bring in my guitar that is completly incompatable with everry other genre that people want me to play.
Thank you

 

[j3ps3]

 

[Demiurge]

Well, since this appears to be for a jazz class, why don't you learn about jazz enough that you can make the connection yourself? I'm not saying this to be ass, but rather to encourage you to let the learning happen. I mean, it's great when you can learn a new thing with something you're familiar with as a context, but it sounds like you're putting the cart before the horse.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

I know you haven't been here long, and I mean no offense by this, but this is probably one of the most SSO posts on SSO. Well done.

 

[nickgray]

 

[wannabguitarist]

People who know music theory please help this is very important I have to play meshuggah so I can bring in my guitar that is completly incompatable with everry other genre that people want me to play.

If this guitar can be used to play Meshuggah, and Meshuggah is jazz, then you can play jazz on that guitar.

 

[kamello]

tone it down a little bit and play something from Tigran Hamasyan?




(if I was your teacher I would tell you to fuck off even with Tigran though )

 

[penguin_316]

Hit him them with a curve ball. They won’t know if they are listening to smooth jazz, metal, prog rock, or bebop.



I’d argue a lot of stuff from Exivious is also fusion/jazz hybrid. No need to force it, we have music of this nature available.

 

[/wrists]

this u?

 

[MFB]

Im trying to convinve my music teacher that meshuggah is in fact jazz

While I dont know enough about jazz

Fucking brilliant

 

[TedEH]

this is very important

So far you haven't demonstrated any reason why this is important.

so I can bring in my guitar that is completly incompatable with everry other genre

Guitars don't have genre-compatibility. You can play jazz on a 15 string dropped tuned slab of plywood painted black and strung with piano wires if you really want to.

It mostly just sounds like you want an excuse to be that guy who insists on jamming your music taste into the situation when it's not what the situation calls for.

 

[ThePhilosopher]

Is this the same guy who wants a store take back a guitar because he doesn't like it and waited almost double the return period?

 

[NoodleFace]

its jazz. You can quote me to your teacher, should be enough evidence

 

[gh0styboi]

As a teacher myself, you sound incredibly frustrating to deal with.

If all you want to do is argue, switch to a debate course. Although I'd argue that if you don't know enough about the topic to clearly articulate your point (Meshuggah is jazz), you'd probably benefit from just taking the actual course as it's intended to be taken. You've already admitted to your teacher you're not informed enough to support your theory, though, so I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain by coming onto a guitar forum and asking other people to feed you an answer that you can't possibly substantiate with your current level of understanding...

However, for what it's worth, I too need to play Meshuggah.

 

[Werecow]

 

[budda]

Jazz is about the notes you dont play. Bring any guitar, dont play anything.

 

[gabito]

Meshuggah’s solos are basically Allan Holdsworth’s solos.

He is a very well known jazz fusion guitar player.

So, learn a few of Meshuggah’s or Allan Holdsworth’s solos and you are done.

Easy peasy.

 

[CTID]

If all you want to do is argue, switch to a debate course. Although I'd argue that if you don't know enough about the topic to clearly articulate your point (Meshuggah is jazz), you'd probably benefit from just taking the actual course as it's intended to be taken. You've already admitted to your teacher you're not informed enough to support your theory, though, so I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain by coming onto a guitar forum and asking other people to feed you an answer that you can't possibly substantiate with your current level of understanding...

exactly this. everyone else seems to have nailed this topic pretty well, but i have to ask: why do you need to play Meshuggah? it comes across exactly as TedEH said here:

It mostly just sounds like you want an excuse to be that guy who insists on jamming your music taste into the situation when it's not what the situation calls for.

is it because you don't like jazz so you're trying to shoehorn in a progressive metal band with some jazz influence in their solos? idk what else you could really say is "jazzy" about meshuggah. just open your mind a bit and play something outside your comfort zone, you'll actually learn something from it.

 

[Mboogie7]

This thread backfired

 

[Calija]

Well, since this appears to be for a jazz class, why don't you learn about jazz enough that you can make the connection yourself? I'm not saying this to be ass, but rather to encourage you to let the learning happen. I mean, it's great when you can learn a new thing with something you're familiar with as a context, but it sounds like you're putting the cart before the horse.

I will most likely do that cus yeah it is jazz, but its only for next term and i wouldnt really want to play meshuggah for my other performance exams cus there is just better stuff to play but also cool meshuggah. In all seriousness tho this post was mostly a joke and I would be playing actual jazz