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I'm genuinely angry that Square-Enix has prioritized remaking Crisis Core over any other main line FF game.

Like... I get the business decision... it's quick cash because FF7 die hards will spend money on anything FF7, including a sub par spin off that the wider world didn't play back on the PSP...

But really, they'd stand to make more money from taking FF6 and remaking it with the Octopath engine. But no... too much of a gamble because the FF6 mobile port got shat on, which was square's own fault but they refuse to admit it, and the pixel remaster bombed because it wasn't what fans wanted.... They wanted 6 in the style of Octopath.

Seriously... remake the golden era JRPGs in the style of Octopath and it's like an IRL cheat code for infinite money... Not fucking complicated. But no... the tone deaf and out of touch boardroom of SE execs want to milk FF7 because that's the only mainline that they think will sell....
 

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I'm genuinely angry that Square-Enix has prioritized remaking Crisis Core over any other main line FF game.

Like... I get the business decision... it's quick cash because FF7 die hards will spend money on anything FF7, including a sub par spin off that the wider world didn't play back on the PSP...

But really, they'd stand to make more money from taking FF6 and remaking it with the Octopath engine. But no... too much of a gamble because the FF6 mobile port got shat on, which was square's own fault but they refuse to admit it, and the pixel remaster bombed because it wasn't what fans wanted.... They wanted 6 in the style of Octopath.

Seriously... remake the golden era JRPGs in the style of Octopath and it's like an IRL cheat code for infinite money... Not fucking complicated. But no... the tone deaf and out of touch boardroom of SE execs want to milk FF7 because that's the only mainline that they think will sell....
In my experience there are exclusively stupid people working at Square.
 

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Honestly, I'd rather them go back to turn-based with their newer games. This whole Kingdom Hearts battle system or whatever it is just doesn't do it for me. The last great FF game wasn't made by Square, it was made by the guy who did the OG FF games, and that game was Lost Odyssey and it was a masterpiece.
 

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Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader was recently announced and it looks/sounds like it's gonna be Divinity: Original Sin in the 40k universe and I'm here for it.

Gotta love licensed Warhammer games, eventually every genre gets a Warhammer game. And sometimes they're good!
 

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I always wanted them to remake Tony Hawk's Underground. I don't want anything ground breaking or new added to the game either. Just better graphics with fluid physics. That was the holy grail of THPS games to me.

With THPS 1 + 2 being remade, I'm sort of holding onto the hope that they will keep going this way and eventually roll out THPS Underground as well.
 

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Final fantasy tactics with modern graphics & online pvp + some extra side quests & no micro transactions/pay to win bull shit would make me buy a modern console. Not gonna happen since turn based strategy/ tactical isometric rpg's are such a niche thing but that's probably for the better as that would completely dominate what little free time I still have.
 

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Final fantasy tactics with modern graphics & online pvp + some extra side quests & no micro transactions/pay to win bull shit would make me buy a modern console. Not gonna happen since turn based strategy/ tactical isometric rpg's are such a niche thing but that's probably for the better as that would completely dominate what little free time I still have
Sir, I have just the thing.

Honestly, I'd rather them go back to turn-based with their newer games. This whole Kingdom Hearts battle system or whatever it is just doesn't do it for me. The last great FF game wasn't made by Square, it was made by the guy who did the OG FF games, and that game was Lost Odyssey and it was a masterpiece.
Lost Odyssey is on my list to play. I'm just burned out on JRPGs for a bit because Trails of Cold Steel II just went on for far too long.

Knowing Square's recent business decisions, they'll probably hype up some announcement related to FF6, and it will be....a set of NFTs
This hurts my soul.
 

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In my experience there are exclusively stupid people working at Square.

Squenix are in a funny state right now. Most of their great employees leave and become freelance or start their own companies (Mistwalker, Monolithsoft), or the get a guy in only to get arrested twice in the span of a month. No wonder that Sakaguchi himself is asking if Square 'are alright?' :lol: Of course, that won't stop me from hurling verbal obscenities at them at any given moment.

I'm sure there's a small group in that Shinra company that shows a bit of heart. They bought back Chrono Cross, remade Tactics Ogre, and remade a game from the early 90s that a good 4 people outside Japan played just earlier this year. And they did just remaster of Minstrel Song. They've also got Front Mission 1 & 2 coming back soon, but I'd like to think of this as their apology plea after completely destroying the franchise with Left Alive. But on the other hand, they teamed up with Platinumgames to what a game with potential could be as good as Nier Automata... but we got Babylon's Fall.
 

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Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader was recently announced and it looks/sounds like it's gonna be Divinity: Original Sin in the 40k universe and I'm here for it.

Gotta love licensed Warhammer games, eventually every genre gets a Warhammer game. And sometimes they're good!
I had Warhammer 40,000: Squad Command for the PSP and used to play it a lot in 2008. I still have it along with my PSP and it has actually held up quite well. I used to play the online mode a lot too, although there was a very easy exploit/glitch that let your characters travel way further than intended. The real shame is that there was not really any replay value, but it was neat to see the models I used to paint show up on a screen.
I always wanted them to remake Tony Hawk's Underground. I don't want anything ground breaking or new added to the game either. Just better graphics with fluid physics. That was the holy grail of THPS games to me.

With THPS 1 + 2 being remade, I'm sort of holding onto the hope that they will keep going this way and eventually roll out THPS Underground as well.
Hell yes! THUG was one of my favorite games growing up. I think it was better than its sequel as well.
 

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Hell yes! THUG was one of my favorite games growing up. I think it was better than its sequel as well.
Completely agree! Although I did have friends that were like 2 years younger that disagree with me on THUG being the best out of the franchise because they grew up on THUG2 and enjoy all the extra CKY-BAM-JACKASS era shenanigans that have been thrown in to make the game extra goofy.

I guess I appreciate the second release for not taking itself seriously but the first one just had a solid story, great mechanics, level design and customization. Also had minimal bloat to just be interesting enough to hold your attention through your play-through but also have infinite re-playability so you never really want to leave the game.

I played through the story so many times, not just the free skate mode. But THUG needed a custom skatepark/level designer like THPS2 had, which I also spend countless of hours in just creating my own spots for fun.

The "open world concept" with bigger maps with icon spots just down the street really just blew my mind at the time. I spend hundreds of hours just skating the Brooklyn Banks in the Manhattan level and other iconic skate spots they threw into the game throughout the title. They should make a THUG 3 with all the same features as the first THUG release plus a custom level designer.
 

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Squenix are in a funny state right now. Most of their great employees leave and become freelance or start their own companies (Mistwalker, Monolithsoft), or the get a guy in only to get arrested twice in the span of a month. No wonder that Sakaguchi himself is asking if Square 'are alright?' :lol: Of course, that won't stop me from hurling verbal obscenities at them at any given moment.

An unfortunate part of Japanese culture is that there's a lot of hero worship -- it's all over the manga and TV shows, etc., and sadly that leaks out to the internet's perception of how things get done in the game industry as well. In reality there are countless people behind the "heart" of these games that people credit as being primarily person X or Y's vision. It would be like crediting Elon Musk with Space X's engineering accomplishments. Management and bureaucracy has a larger effect on shaping periods of success and failure in new titles than <insert name of creative person>.
 

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An unfortunate part of Japanese culture is that there's a lot of hero worship -- it's all over the manga and TV shows, etc., and sadly that leaks out to the internet's perception of how things get done in the game industry as well. In reality there are countless people behind the "heart" of these games that people credit as being primarily person X or Y's vision. It would be like crediting Elon Musk with Space X's engineering accomplishments. Management and bureaucracy has a larger effect on shaping periods of success and failure in new titles than <insert name of creative person>.
So what you're saying is there are exclusively stupid people working at Square?
 

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Am I the only one here looking forward to Crisis Core? I didn't have a PSP, and I don't think a lot of people did really.
 

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sadly that leaks out to the internet's perception of how things get done in the game industry as well.
In my experience, there's a lot of that hero worship kind of thing that happens inside the industry too, not just in Japan. You see a lot of cases where someone might work on something for months, just to have [insert famous designer name here] breathe slightly in the direction of the project and suddenly everything has to be uprooted to appease The Great Designer. Occasionally this works out well, given that someone with that status maybe does have the insight to back it up, but sometimes it just makes everyone's life miserable for no reason.

IMO on any sizeable project, there are no heroes - the "real heroes" are those who manage to maintain a functional, productive, consistent, and good-to-their-people pipeline. Like QA people - maaaaaan there is so much good to be done with proper skilled QA people. But instead the industry chews em up like fast food or call center workers.

Anyway, what was I saying? Don't worship heroes. Instead praise good teams.
 

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Squenix are in a funny state right now. Most of their great employees leave and become freelance or start their own companies (Mistwalker, Monolithsoft), or the get a guy in only to get arrested twice in the span of a month. No wonder that Sakaguchi himself is asking if Square 'are alright?' :lol: Of course, that won't stop me from hurling verbal obscenities at them at any given moment.

I'm sure there's a small group in that Shinra company that shows a bit of heart. They bought back Chrono Cross, remade Tactics Ogre, and remade a game from the early 90s that a good 4 people outside Japan played just earlier this year. And they did just remaster of Minstrel Song. They've also got Front Mission 1 & 2 coming back soon, but I'd like to think of this as their apology plea after completely destroying the franchise with Left Alive. But on the other hand, they teamed up with Platinumgames to what a game with potential could be as good as Nier Automata... but we got Babylon's Fall.
I never really hear about separate teams at Square, but of course there are. Cause they do release a few bangers every year, while also making unbelievably idiotic business decisions (NFTs, dumping the deus ex/tomb raider franchises) and releasing total garbage (mobile ports, babylon's fall, avengers, etc) and doing inexplicable, idiotic things with their biggest franchise (FFXIV's "reborn" version seems to be the only one with an overwhelmingly positive reaction since like...X). It would make me feel better if all the people responsible for the good games were no longer under the Square banner cause they're starting to get quite a terrible reputation.
 


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