Fortin 33 clone for Headrush

[littlebadboy]

Looks like sonic-dna came out with a Fortin 33 clone for us Headrush users! Sweet!

SDNA FRTN Grind33 Headrush Rig Pack

Want that super tight , sharp, defined modern metal/djent tone? Behold the Grind33. The Grind and 33 (otherwise known as the Meshuggah pedal) were designed to tighten up high gain amps and give you razor sharp precision. Through research and in depth EQ analyzation the secret to these "boost"...

sonic-dna.com

 

[CanserDYI]

Oh my god I swore this was a thread asking if you should trade your headrush for a fortin 33 clone and I was about to punch you virtually.

 

[littlebadboy]

Oh my god I swore this was a thread asking if you should trade your headrush for a fortin 33 clone and I was about to punch you virtually.

Was my thread title that misleading?

 

[Dr. Caligari]

"Through research and in depth EQ analyzation the secret to these "boost" pedals has been unlocked"

Lol ok...

 

[Tree]

Not a Headrush user, but I’m a bit perplexed by what’s being offered here.

Does the headrush allow users to “create” and upload there own models of stuff? Or is this page selling a couple presets that they claim nail the sound of the 33 without any evidence to back it up?

 

[Dr. Caligari]

I don't know Headrush stuff either but what those pedals do is just a set eq filter based on a TC Integrated Preamp, no? Surely anyone who can use an eq can easily get those tones? I mean, the Headrush stuff has eq's, right?

 

[-Cetanu-]

Is this a joke?

 

[bostjan]

Hope they spent more time developing the product than they did writing the description and making the graphic for the page.

 

[Crungy]

Looks like some Angelfire quality to me

 

[littlebadboy]

I understand that some are not Headrush fans, but... do you really have to?

 

[-Cetanu-]

Looks like some Angelfire quality to me

The site was giving me GeoCities flashbacks but it's "Powered by GoDaddy Website Builder", whatever that is.

Gmail address is in plaintext so that junk folder must be bursting at the seams.

Through research and in depth EQ analyzation the secret to these "boost" pedals has been unlocked

With a description like that I have to ask myself, "Do they think their customers are idiots?". Mike Fortin never had an original idea in his entire life and since the 33/Grind is just a dumbed down TC Integrated Preamp nobody who knows how to read the HeadRush manual should need to buy this... preset.

And I might be wrong but when somebody can't make a proper website or hire one to do it I doubt they're capable of making what they call "Next Gen IRs".

 

[CanserDYI]

I understand that some are not Headrush fans, but... do you really have to?

....? Not sure what anyone said about Headrush? We're criticizing this 3rd party company trying to sell an EQ curve to people.

 

[littlebadboy]

I do not know the person personally, but I am Facebook friends with him from a Headrush group. He's actually a great down-to-earth person. He's just selling rigs/IR packs for just five bucks usually, but takes his time, email, messenger chat, or even call, to walk us through fine-tuning and dialing in settings until we get the sound that we want. So, I don't appreciate the impugning words towards a good person, or any good person at all. I understand the tons of false claimed products out there, but I can say that he is one of the good honest guys. Sonic-dna is actually one of the most recommended for us Headrush users.

These are actually full rigs with IRs that are top notch. He doesn't spend a ton on website "builders" to pass the savings along to customers. I could say that Sonic-DNA is customer oriented, not owner oriented. C'mon... hey... It's just usually $5+ a pack. I think of it as treating a friend with a 2/3 cup of Starbucks for helping me dial in a tone, plus a bunch of IRs.

 

[Dr. Caligari]

Maybe it's harsh but for me it's like this:

1) Those pedals got a lot of undeserved hype. They are based on an already existing pedal from TC, just with settings fixed at an extreme setting.

2) They are simple in how they work and it's pretty well known what they do. So it should be pretty easy to replicate the effect for people who are interested.

3) All the above is why selling a digital version of the pedals makes me roll my eyes, especially when it's described as a "secret unlocked" etc.

That's all really. I don't know anything about the seller and I'm not commenting on them as a person. And anyway, even people we think are good guys can do things we don't agree with. That doesn't mean they're no longer good guys. It just means we didn't agree with that thing they did.

 

[lewis]

You can do the exact same thing with any graphic eq infront of an amp that has a 20db of level boost on tap

 

[Tree]

So again, this isn't some integrated model of the Fortin 33 that people can actually use in their own patches, right? This is a group of presets that allege they replicate the sound of the 33 or the Grind being used? That's kinda sheisty as I'm sure most people buying this don't have the 33 or another TC clone to do an A/B with. As others have said you could get the same results just using a combination of the built in EQs and overdrives within the Headrush, or whatever gear you have and not have to pay someone to do it for you. It just seems like a weird business model.

I thought initially that Headrush had done some updates to make their system more modular, which could have been cool.

 

[bostjan]

I do not know the person personally, but I am Facebook friends with him from a Headrush group. He's actually a great down-to-earth person. He's just selling rigs/IR packs for just five bucks usually, but takes his time, email, messenger chat, or even call, to walk us through fine-tuning and dialing in settings until we get the sound that we want. So, I don't appreciate the impugning words towards a good person, or any good person at all. I understand the tons of false claimed products out there, but I can say that he is one of the good honest guys. Sonic-dna is actually one of the most recommended for us Headrush users.

These are actually full rigs with IRs that are top notch. He doesn't spend a ton on website "builders" to pass the savings along to customers. I could say that Sonic-DNA is customer oriented, not owner oriented. C'mon... hey... It's just usually $5+ a pack. I think of it as treating a friend with a 2/3 cup of Starbucks for helping me dial in a tone, plus a bunch of IRs.

Good points! $5 is not a lot to ask.

Counterpoint: He's still making a digital product and asking for money for it, so, it's fair for someone to note that the marketing claims are scammy-sounding and that the page to advertise it looks very dated, and that there is some irony involved in someone selling a potentially low-effort digital product from a webpage that appears to be low-effort on the surface.

Frankly, I think it's partially what the world has come to - everything anymore is a grift to separate you from your money. So, stuff like this sets off the BS-detector partially because the BS-detector sensitivity has been set super low from exposure to tons of scammy kickstarters, scammy luthier runs, scammy guitar picks, scammy "special" strings that are obviously just normal strings, scammy corporations who force you to subscribe to things that used to be just bought outright, scammy corporations who charge you a fee to uninstall stuff you no longer want to pay monthly for, etc.

 

[Tree]

This thread got me thinking last night. I was a little bored using the boosts built in to the Helix, so I thought to myself, "What the hey, I bet I too can 'research' and use 'in depth EQ analyzation' to unlock the 33's secret tone vault".

And guess what? With about 2 minutes of "research" and then maybe 5 minutes of A/Bing with the Neural one on some DIs I was rockin' and rollin' just as if I had the 33 sat at my feet.

Now, I'm not some big city business man, but it seems to me that $5 would be an awful lot to charge my fellow guitarists for this tonal snake oil. These other's guys selling this secret for that price are only after your money. I'll graciously dole out some presets with the secret ravioli formu-oli for only $4.98.













To be real though, it's ridiculously easy to recreate in any modern processor, and fun too! Give it a go if you haven't already.

 

[CanserDYI]

Yeah Im gonna agree with @Tree 's commentary and add one thing, paid presets are for entire rigs. A setting on a boost/EQ curve should be a YouTube video showing you how to achieve it, and even add a "and by the way guys I have full rig patches available for $5 in the link below". That would sound much more honest and helpful than this.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

By "research" I'm assuming he just watched the Plague Scythe Studio video lol