Female guitarists on Only Fans. Not sure if it is a good or bad thing....

[Albake21]

So you're saying I shouldn't have an OnlyFans?

Here's the link for anyone interested:

www.onlyfans.com/jaxadam123

Are we dating? Or even more......son? Is that you?

Also damn that brings me back, super nostalgic.

But then you're basically just condemning sex / cam work in general, and it's no longer a guitar or music related discussion.

I mean, that's essentially what the thread turned into. When you're dissecting people's opinions like some have already challenged, of course it's going to be about more topics than just musicians.

All my point is, when I see a musician selling their nudes for an audience rather than being what they are already good at, I just think to myself "what if that was my son or daughter?" And my response is not good. Simple as that.

 

[evade]

2 birds 1 stone!

 

[mmr007]

There are over 7 billion people on this planet and the chances that I will agree with or approve of how everyone lives their life is beyond infinitesimal so I have decided to shut the fuck up and not judge how people live their lives. Im hungry. I want a taco.

 

[STRHelvete]

 

[Demiurge]

All my point is, when I see a musician selling their nudes for an audience rather than being what they are already good at, I just think to myself "what if that was my son or daughter?" And my response is not good. Simple as that.

But don't you think it's weird to promote some sort of faux-paternalistic concern over the decisions of an adult- especially those regarding said adult's sexual agency?

The OP brought up the topic with an interrogation of his own knee-jerk judgment, and I think that it's a healthy thing to do here.

 

[PatientMental76]

Its absolutely a good thing so they can showcase their one & only true talent!

 

[Winspear]

Are we dating? Or even more......son? Is that you?

Also damn that brings me back, super nostalgic.

I mean, that's essentially what the thread turned into. When you're dissecting people's opinions like some have already challenged, of course it's going to be about more topics than just musicians.

All my point is, when I see a musician selling their nudes for an audience rather than being what they are already good at, I just think to myself "what if that was my son or daughter?" And my response is not good. Simple as that.

What if it made your son or daughter happier and wealthier than what they would otherwise be doing? Would you not want your child to make choices that make them happiest in life, just because certain other people are judgemental of it?

 

[Albake21]

What if it made your son or daughter happier and wealthier than what they would otherwise be doing? Would you not want your child to make choices that make them happiest in life, just because certain other people are judgemental of it?

This is a tough question to answer considering I'm not an actual father, but if I had to be honest, it would be a double-edged sword. On one hand, I would want what would make my kid happy and successful, but I also wouldn't be able to stop myself from feeling disappointment and shame.

Would I stop them? No. But I'd be very bothered by it and unsure how I'd handle it. I'll let that play out how it does if it were to happen in my future haha.

 

[Winspear]

This is a tough question to answer considering I'm not an actual father, but if I had to be honest, it would be a double-edged sword. On one hand, I would want what would make my kid happy and successful, but I also wouldn't be able to stop myself from feeling disappointment and shame.

Would I stop them? No. But I'd be very bothered by it and unsure how I'd handle it. I'll let that play out how it does if it were to happen in my future haha.

Really just food for thought on why that might be and what it really means. I'd encourage anyone to ask themselves why?
But it's understandable, and expected I suppose - I'm sure that would be the majority opinion - tradition does not change easily and it would be a challenge for any one person to shift their opinion on things in their own lifetime. But indeed, there is always a necessary period of conflict and discomfort on both sides as society and traditions progress. But we are probably/hopefully/maybe just a couple of generations away from vast societal improvements in many areas also including LGBT, racism etc. as new generations grow up surrounded by a completely different experience, expectations and norms.

 

[narad]

This is a tough question to answer considering I'm not an actual father, but if I had to be honest, it would be a double-edged sword. On one hand, I would want what would make my kid happy and successful, but I also wouldn't be able to stop myself from feeling disappointment and shame.

Would I stop them? No. But I'd be very bothered by it and unsure how I'd handle it. I'll let that play out how it does if it were to happen in my future haha.

And how would you feel if your son was paying a girl on onlyfans to do cam stuff? And what if your son was just paying a monthly porn subscription? And what if your son was just looking at free porn online?

 

[mehegama]

And how would you feel if your son was paying a girl on onlyfans to do cam stuff? And what if your son was just paying a monthly porn subscription? And what if your son was just looking at free porn online?

You are pointing very well here the hypocrisy in society where many of the people that condemn sex workers, are regular visitors of porn sites.
My problem is the known connection of mental health issues and sex workers (prostitutes or porn/cam/OF etc)in the long run.
Also by going OF she ll forever be known by that and not the music. The music will go on the background. And in a few years time that she might not look as attractive as now, the mental health issues will hit red..
THat is what i would be more worried for.

 

[narad]

You are pointing very well here the hypocrisy in society where many of the people that condemn sex workers, are regular visitors of porn sites.
My problem is the known connection of mental health issues and sex workers (prostitutes or porn/cam/OF etc)in the long run.
Also by going OF she ll forever be known by that and not the music. The music will go on the background. And in a few years time that she might not look as attractive as now, the mental health issues will hit red..
THat is what i would be more worried for.

But I have to wonder about the causality in these associations between sex work and mental health issues. First, I think these associations were established on sex work population at large. The sophisticated girl making half a million annually catering to NY elites is not the same as the rural mountain town prostitute because that's basically at some point that was the only way to get money, and is not the private cam onlyfans girl trying to augment income to have more time for music, and I imagine the mental health issues do not evenly distribute here.

You might say that sex work does not cause mental health issues, but that people with mental health issues are more prone to sex work (this is just hypothesizing, I've not seen any study good enough to make strong claims here). But, if it's not that, and the causality really is from sex work to mental health, I also wonder if it's not the general shunning and disdain that the people around that person direct towards them, the isolation from family or friends, that pushes them to have such issues. In other words, a lot of the factors may again be external, and may be based on people's prudish judgements rather than some inherent effect of the work.

FWIW, these are the same sort of arguments leveraged against homosexuals in the 70s/80s, and that you see now against trans people. Like hmm, suicides are really high in these demographics (of people that a near majority of the US publicly laughs at or is disgusted by). It's like we make life immensely more difficult for some people, then turn around and say, hmm, they're suffering from very high rates of mental illness. AND THEN turn around and say they're suffering from mental illness, you should really think twice before doing/being X.

 

[bostjan]

IDGAF who has an onlyfans or what people do in private or whatever.

My only thought is that it's probably not the most advisable thing to cross-advertise your adult entertainment content in your youtube videos. But who cares?

 

[lurè]

Yeah, to me feels like "I'm upset that people dont give a crap about my music but the only look at me for my body, sooo fuck it imma go on onlyfans and forget about music even if I could open a Patreon"

 

[ArtDecade]

My biggest concern about having a child doing sex work is the shelf life. They will need to make lots of cash quickly and invest properly (though not likely since young people do silly things with money). Once they leave that line of work for whatever reason, they will still carry the stigma of that work whether justified or not. Society doesn't always do the right things by people.

 

[eaeolian]

And how would you feel if your son was paying a girl on onlyfans to do cam stuff? And what if your son was just paying a monthly porn subscription? And what if your son was just looking at free porn online?

He might be paying, I'm sure he's looking. He's an adult. It's not like I never tipped a stripper.

 

[IwantTacos]

You cannot imagine the rage I feel when I subscribe to an onlyfans and there are no nudes

 

[IwantTacos]

My biggest concern about having a child doing sex work is the shelf life. They will need to make lots of cash quickly and invest properly (though not likely since young people do silly things with money). Once they leave that line of work for whatever reason, they will still carry the stigma of that work whether justified or not. Society doesn't always do the right things by people.

Sasha grey is doing great as a gamer lifestyle streamer.

 

[MFB]

Sasha grey is doing great as a gamer lifestyle streamer.

Only after years of having a reputation as the dirtiest girl in porn

 

[ArtDecade]

Sasha grey is doing great as a gamer lifestyle streamer.

... she also isn't old.