ESP 2024
Albake21
Ibanez Nerd
Oh boy, that sure will offset the low low price for an E-II!
Trashgreen
Well-Known Member
So while we're all waiting for real life pictures of this year models to show up next year.., let me tease you with some real life pics of this last year model which just arrived today!!
I will make a seperate thread in a couple of days..
I will make a seperate thread in a couple of days..
The emblem of this whole scenario is the new Yamaha line, Pacifica models for about 2.5-3k
But you are talking about the Professional, right? The new Made in Japan Pacificas. Yamahas Made in Japan have been expensive for a long time already and some of the best guitars made out there. Actually, they are keeping the prices quite consistent for the last 5 years or so. This new Pacificas MIJ are about 300€ more than two years old (I believe) Revstar Professional models (Revstar for 1800€ while these new Paciicas for 2100€). Guitars with their A.I.R. treatment, stainless steel frets, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Not much more than a 2023 Ibanez Prestige and I trust Yamaha's QC much more if you ask me.
Still not buying any though.
PS: This is the non-MIJ version, the standard plus... Beautiful and priced better than many other imports. 99% sure is made in Indonesia like almost every electric Yamaha. Great craftmanship actually.
Yamaha Pacifica Standard Plus ASP MF
Yamaha Pacifica Standard Plus Ash Pink; Electric Guitar; Body: Alder; Neck: Maple, bolt-on; Neck Finish: Custom Tinted Satin Polyurethane; Fretboard: Maple; Fretboard Radius: 350mm (13.75"); Scale Length: 648mm (25.5"); String Spacing: 10. 8mm; nut...
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cardinal
Buys guitars, sometimes plays them
I hope they offer some very clear explanation of when this takes effect (serial number range or some kind of paper work with the guitar). Otherwise, seems like it'll be a bit of a mess.
Though it makes sense to switch over. It was odd having some models with SS frets and some not based only on the finish.
Dumple Stilzkin
Pointy star bastard.
You guys are acting like these price increases happened overnight, we’ve been trending towards this for sometime. Buy used if you don’t like it.
HeHasTheJazzHands
Well-Known Member
Yeah seeing the reactions in all the 2024 NAMM threads is like reading a bunch of people coming from some time warp from 2009 or something. It's really bad regarding inflation rates since covid lockdowns.
Hollowway
Extended Ranger
Same. I do wonder if we'll see a bunch of people dump their guitars onto the used market when the economy slows down, and that guitar they bought during the pandemic, now sitting in the corner gathering dust, starts to look like a good way to earn money. Maybe then we'll get some cheaper prices. At least on used gear. Until then, companies will price higher because the market is bearing it.
arasys
needs more RRs
*looks at current used ESP prices* Is it you Marie Antoinette? kidding, it just blows my mind that my ESP Alexi I bought used for $950 10 years ago can go for over $3.5K these days (not that I am going to sell it)..
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Same. If I'm gonna pay $1.5k+ for LTDs I might as well pick what I want + have some fun and put it all together.
Dumple Stilzkin
Pointy star bastard.
Ever look at the cost of real estate 10 years ago versus today? That’ll make a little turd roll out yer butt.
Zado
Well-Known Member
See? You don't even have to get proper vintage gear to make good guitar investments. Just buy and wait a decade, maybe less.
manu80
Well-Known Member
That Klliher looks nice. but not 2K nice. this hobby is going to be elitist in 2/3 yrs. good luck kids, better get good jobs.
And yeah we could see some price increase coming but not to that extreme in like what ? 2/3 yrs? covid/ Ukraine/shipping cost/gas/primary products but cost of life has gone crazy since then.....in a pretty short window.
And yeah we could see some price increase coming but not to that extreme in like what ? 2/3 yrs? covid/ Ukraine/shipping cost/gas/primary products but cost of life has gone crazy since then.....in a pretty short window.
Zado
Well-Known Member
We have no exhibition models topic this year, people sure is pissed
SalsaWood
Scares the 'choes.
It's the global trade uncertainty that really jacks with prices. Combined with a large wave of people retiring around the same time and resultant demographic factors. Leaves us with high prices for corner cut products, comparatively. Not to get political, but the international protection of shipping lanes has been a bit...neglected...since even before the plague and still hangs around the neck of the global economy. Wood isn't actually more expensive, neither is labor or hardware. It's the facilitation of them into an instrument that went through the roof for aforementioned reasons. You can bet just as much money that if/when those costs to produce go down the item cost to the customer will still stay high. So who knows what the situation is currently for companies, but regardless that's the situation on our end as consumers. Unless someone really strikes when the iron is hot and goes 90's Ibanez with cheap and fantastic guitars in large volume prices will stay high. It's not "fair" that folks who are diligent with their money have to pay impulsive prices, but that's the world we all live in. Just be glad nobody needs a guitar to live.
That or aliens abducted all the world's smart people in a single year. I haven't looked at the real data, but I'm still here so it checks out at a glance.
That or aliens abducted all the world's smart people in a single year. I haven't looked at the real data, but I'm still here so it checks out at a glance.
"Japan". All the parts are made in Indo factories, IIRC.
Ibanez RG5170G-SVF
Electric Guitar Prestige series, Body: Basswood, 5-Piece screwed neck: maple / wenge, Fretboard: Makassar ebony, Off-set Mother of Pearl Dot fretboard inlays, Neck profile: Super Wizard HP (thickness at 1st fret 17 mm / thickness at 12th fret 19...www.thomann.de
200 less for a brand new Japan prestige with hard case, ebony fretboard, stainless steel frets, gold hardware, full pearl binding, and fishman pickups that somehow cause every 600$ Indo guitar to jump to 1700$.
Seriously fuck your 2200$ Ltd.
Zado
Well-Known Member
Gotoh bridges are still made in Japan. Same with most tuners, though some of the cheaper lines and the buttons are made at Sung-Il in South Korea.
The hardcases are made by TKL in China if that counts.
Fujigen is still building these from scratch, for now at least. In another 10 years who knows.
Maybe you're thinking the Premium series or the old MIK Prestige stuff from the early aughts.
Nightside
Reformed killer of possum
Prestige 5000 series? Which parts of those are made in Indonesia?
