EBMM Abasi Kaizen

[Musiscience]

And now we wait for it to appear on Reverb for $10K.

This is the right take.

 

[DiezelMonster]

And now we wait for it to appear on Reverb for $10K.

Are they that rare? I mean I will get another one in a couple weeks for my distribution center

 

[xzacx]

I’m doubtful anyone is gonna get $10k when there are brand new ones available for retail. Seems like it’d be a waste of effort to list them like that.

 

[Hollowway]

I’m doubtful anyone is gonna get $10k when there are brand new ones available for retail. Seems like it’d be a waste of effort to list them like that.

Perhaps you’re unfamiliar with Reverb, good sir! The idea is to list a decidedly NOT rare guitar for substantially more than a new guitar, seemingly oblivious to all logic pointing to this being a dumb move.

 

[Mathemagician]

The flare finish is amazing but yeeesh that upper fret access looks terrible for something that is supposed to be “modern”.

 

[Stuck_in_a_dream]

For whatever reason, I don't like anything EBMM has, EXCEPT the St. Vincent, which I adore. I just can't get behind this Kaizen. It just looks like it's trying to be different for the sake of being different.

Same here, but I could have easily ignored the cosmetics had the fan been of any use. I feel the fan decision was totally pretentious and of no use to the vast majority of modern metal players.

 

[Agalloch]

Are they that rare? I mean I will get another one in a couple weeks for my distribution center

I'm just poking fun. Seems common for people to flip "hot new releases" though. People were even trying to flip the PRS Silver Sky SE for absurd amounts of cash when it first came out.

Plus, the other Abasi guitars occasionally get listed at crazy prices.

 

[MaxOfMetal]

The flare finish is amazing but yeeesh that upper fret access looks terrible for something that is supposed to be “modern”.

Are we looking at the same guitar? The cutaway is right to the last fret, then there's the shaping. Heel hits around 18, and is shaved back a bit to 20-ish.

I know folks these days want to be able to press the 24th with the first knuckle of their index finger, but I'd say this guitar looks like it has something between great and excellent upper fret access.

 

[Mathemagician]

The heel curve is right where it connects around the 15th fret. I would expect the heel to be further back.

Edit: I guess it connects at the 17th which is better. Still though, imo could have been neater neck-through. But this is squarely in “guitars I’d never buy” range anyways. Very cool but not for me.

 

[Thaeon]

Perhaps you’re unfamiliar with Reverb, good sir! The idea is to list a decidedly NOT rare guitar for substantially more than a new guitar, seemingly oblivious to all logic pointing to this being a dumb move.

Yes, and same account will run around complaining that others won’t accept their low ball offers on things fairly priced.

 

[Thaeon]

I think it’s an interesting design. I think it’s a really weird pairing when he’s already got his own company. I find myself asking why…. It’s not like any of his shops couldn’t have made this. I wonder if the demand for top end Abasi guitars has driven him to seek out a bigger, reputable builder to get stuff out to market with his name on it. Just a really big “Wut?” If it’s an EBMM made in the US shop I have no doubt it will be a fine instrument.

Also…. Heat treated pickups?? There is nothing in my knowledge of physics and my long years in IT that makes me think that heat exposure for any electronic component will do anything positive. In fact, I would expect worse electrical performance afterward…

 

[zimbloth]

My shop has the Kaizen 7 in both colors if anyones interested in a good deal. It plays outstanding. Its looks are polarizing but theres no doubting its an excellent guitar.

 

[TimmyPage]

My shop has the Kaizen 7 in both colors if anyones interested in a good deal. It plays outstanding. Its looks are polarizing but theres no doubting its an excellent guitar.

Yeah I got a chance to try one today in a store near me. Plays exceptionally comfortably, and the neck pickup especially sounded fantastic (didn't get a chance to try it with any gain, but all positions through a fender twin sounded great).

 

[MetalDestroyer]

Played one of these today. If it were 3k-3300 I'd probably own it right now - extremely comfortable both ergonomically as well as where the frets sit relative to the body. The one here was probably 6lb total.

Anyone know what the plans are for the rest of the colors?

 

[Crungy]

Also…. Heat treated pickups?

The only thing I'm seeing about that is heat treated pole pieces.... That might be interesting testing pickups with regular pole pieces vs hardened ones. Or maybe it's snake oil.

 

[Thaeon]

The only thing I'm seeing about that is heat treated pole pieces.... That might be interesting testing pickups with regular pole pieces vs hardened ones. Or maybe it's snake oil.

I don’t see how hardening them is going to make the magnetic properties better. I do know that extreme heat will weaken Alnico magnets. Maybe a way of aging them for a more vintage vibe? But I don’t see how that fits with Tosin’s vibe.

 

[Alberto7]

I don’t see how hardening them is going to make the magnetic properties better. I do know that extreme heat will weaken Alnico magnets. Maybe a way of aging them for a more vintage vibe? But I don’t see how that fits with Tosin’s vibe.

If I remember my materials science courses correctly in university, different crystalline structures of stainless steel have different magnetic properties. These crystalline structures can be modified by changing the temperature of the steel and quenching (annealing and tempering), and depending on the composition of the steel alloy used (Carbon percentage, as well as Nickel, Cobalt, Vanadium, etc.) the temperatures needed to achieve these changes are different. Changes in magnetic properties tend to be side effects of these processes; usually what they're trying to do is to modify the mechanical properties of the metal.

That's just the general info I remember off the top of my head. I'd need to dive back into the phase diagrams for different steel alloys.

 

[groverj3]

I'm sure I'm the only one who thinks this is fugly and nobody has shared that opinion in the past 21 pages.

Edit: But does it have stainless steel frets‽ 🙃🙃

 

[MetalDestroyer]

I'm sure I'm the only one who thinks this is fugly and nobody has shared that opinion in the past 21 pages.

Edit: But does it have stainless steel frets‽ 🙃🙃

Like I get that it's a meme but yes it has stainless frets, it's an EBMM. I think only the Luke III doesn't have them.

 

[NoodleFace]

Perhaps you’re unfamiliar with Reverb, good sir! The idea is to list a decidedly NOT rare guitar for substantially more than a new guitar, seemingly oblivious to all logic pointing to this being a dumb move.

Seen some RG7620s going for close to 1500-2000 recently. Reverb is a cesspool