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Discussion in 'Gear & Equipment' started by Thaeon, Apr 23, 2019.
Not looking for Djenty sounds. More like Cult of Luna. Atmospheric, and like a tsunami of guitar.
The raw and vintage modes lose some volume efficiency over the modern modes as well. I don't like the over all tone of the raw mode, I use vintage mode sometimes depending on what I'm doing. Again, the Rivera still buries it. I hate boosting overdrive channels because it affects the feel of the amp too much. I use a clean boost on the clean channels for some of that Spaghetti Western kind of stuff. But that's about as boosted as I'll go.
VHT/Fryette UL or Deliverance
Splawn Nitro KT88
EQ infront of Recto
Not looking for tight. Looking for Massive.
If you can trade for one do it. Neither amp is rare, very hard to sell, or very hard to buy again. You really have nothing to lose. I’ve only played a mkii, which is fizzy and loose at low volume, but it really screams to life at volumes that count. I’d try KT88’s in it personally (that one had a switch on the back for tube types I’m pretty sure) but it was a great tone at stage volume.
Go Rockerverb MKIII, you will love it. Sounds like you know what you want and everyone else is just suggesting other amps. I have one, a Multi-Watt Dual Rec, and a 5153, the RV is my favorite.
Orange and Rivera? Going for slipknot style tones?
Coincidence. I HATE Slipknot.
Interesting how people suggest the stuff they like or know over an opinion about what was asked. I've been guilty of it in the past too, so just an observation. But it isn't really all that helpful. Its also interesting that people tend to overlook descriptions of what sounds you're going for in favor of what they think is a better sound.
Where are your mids set on the Triple and are you using the global master volume?
Edit: Actually what are all your settings on the Triple?
Edit 2: Wait, are you moving on from the Recto for sure and trying to get something to blend with the Rivera because it sounds Recto-ish already or were you asking if the Orange would do the tone you're looking for better than a Recto? If it's #1 then just ignore me lol.
Alright so let’s get this straight.
Correct any of this if it’s wrong.
-a slightly more defined pick attack but not necessarily a tighter low end
-something that cuts through the mix enough to not get buried by the Rivera
-don’t want a djent tone or anything “modern”
-nothing SLO/Recto/6505 ish
So let’s suggest vintage voiced amps with a big low end that don’t stem from the SLO family.
Orange makes sense.
So does Hovercraft i think.
I say go for it and trade the Recto for the ROckerverb
Master around 10 o'clock. Gain at 1. Channel Master at 9. Bass around 10. Mids around 2:30. Treble at 2. Presence at 3. It's pushing a ported 112. I know how the Preamp on the Recto is designed. Its not an issue with the settings. I use my ears for those. Again, NOT a TONE issue. Its an issue with how it blends with my other amp which I have grown to prefer.
Maybe ‘blending’ isn’t the right approach? What about dialing the Recto to do what it does best: crushing low-end with less emphasis on mids, then, dial your Rivera for more mids/less lows. Just a thought.
Yeah, again, you don't 'hear' the Recto that way. And the Rivera has nearly as much low end as the Recto. So that's redundant. Its not like I haven't tried stuff like this or thought about it. I've been playing since '92 and have a degree in music. I've got a literally different sound in my head than what a Recto makes. Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. What the Recto does, you really don't hear well next to the Rivera unless you turn the Mesa way up. The Mesa sounds weak next to it. Which isn't how a Mesa should sound. It sounds huge and aggressive by itself. When switching between them and setting the volume levels at the same with my A/B/Y, whether in or out of phase, the Mesa becomes indistinct. The Rivera cuts through it. I want something that is different enough from the Rivera with less of a Mid scoop, and non-super compressed sound.
Get the Orange then
My .2 cent suggestion: Modded Marshall or Cieratone Hey What?
How about slaving the Recto into a Mesa Strategy 400 or 500? Or 295, or VHT 2150 or 2100. Power, power, power.
Other than that, amps like Orange make sense. I would love to try a Thunderverb 200.
Come to think of it, i can’t think of any vintage voiced amps, with a huge low end, that aren’t from the SLO family other than Orange.
I mean, if it were just massive low end I was after, the Rivera has a crossover built in with a Subwoofer out. I'd just need a powered sub.
Yeah, but i know you want to mix something and i think oranges are worth hearing in person if you’ve never tried one before. There’s a mid range quality about oranges that’s entirely unique to them and i hear they make a great “blending” amp for stereo rigs.
Hmmmm less of a mid scoop and less compressed than a recto. Maybe try an older Laney like a Gh or Vh, or just get an Orange.