Christian Olde Wolbers new music/FF?

[S4M4R1N]

There's a lot of "oh we dont actually hate each other it's just business"

but no I think they actually all hate each other lol. Especially Burton @ Dino given the way Dino got full rights to the band name, and COW seems to still hold a grudge to this day.

Well, if I got the history right, then it was BCB that set off a chain of events that eventually tanked 3th gen FF. By design, bankruptcy is an every man for himself type of deal. I don't see why Dino would had to do the rights acquisition any other way. Plus, Dino actually offered BCB to return 50/50.

It's been 5 years since and it's clear that it's best for all of them to got their projects well off. All of them got rather limited time left in this physically and mentally demanding genre.

 

[Werecow]

Well, if I got the history right, then it was BCB that set off a chain of events that eventually tanked 3th gen FF. By design, bankruptcy is an every man for himself type of deal. I don't see why Dino would had to do the rights acquisition any other way. Plus, Dino actually offered BCB to return 50/50.

It's been 5 years since and it's clear that it's best for all of them to got their projects well off. All of them got rather limited time left in this physically and mentally demanding genre.

Dino said Burton didn't declare all his assets (or hid some) in the bankruptcy, and doing that completely forfeited Burton's right to the FF name. So yeh, totally self-inflicted. The amount of weird drama from that band is unbelievable.

And COW holds grudges against a lot of things.... like vaccines, Covid existing, the moon landings existing. Who knows what else

 

[Crungy]

And COW holds grudges against a lot of things.... like vaccines, Covid existing, the moon landings existing. Who knows what else

Oh shit, really? I didn't know he was on record for that stuff

 

[Werecow]

Oh shit, really? I didn't know he was on record for that stuff

In his Instagram stories (so they disappear after a little while) he reposts other people's crazy moon landing hoax videos, anti-vax stuff, was a covid denier during the pandemic, with his posts getting deleted by Instagram for misinformation. Just the other day he posted a weird thing that was either making fun of measles, or denying it, when a big measles outbreak occured that made a lot of kids ill (through low vaccine uptake).
So i'm not exactly keen on the guy.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Well, if I got the history right, then it was BCB that set off a chain of events that eventually tanked 3th gen FF. By design, bankruptcy is an every man for himself type of deal. I don't see why Dino would had to do the rights acquisition any other way. Plus, Dino actually offered BCB to return 50/50.

It's been 5 years since and it's clear that it's best for all of them to got their projects well off. All of them got rather limited time left in this physically and mentally demanding genre.

Yeah I didn't say it wasn't self-inflicted and Dino didn't have the right to do it, just that Burton probably was pissed about the whole thing lol.

In his Instagram stories (so they disappear after a little while) he reposts other people's crazy moon landing hoax videos, anti-vax stuff, was a covid denier during the pandemic, with his posts getting deleted by Instagram for misinformation. Just the other day he posted a weird thing that was either making fun of measles, or denying it, when a big measles outbreak occured that made a lot of kids ill (through low vaccine uptake).
So i'm not exactly keen on the guy.

 

[BlackMastodon]

And COW holds grudges against a lot of things.... like vaccines, Covid existing, the moon landings existing. Who knows what else

Oh shit, really? I didn't know he was on record for that stuff

He and Steph Carpenter should start a club, if only for the sole reason so I know who to avoid.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

He and Steph Carpenter should start a club, if only for the sole reason so I know who to avoid.

Apparently they're BFFs (unless COW pissed him off too lol), so I'm shocked they haven't yet lol.

 

[Crungy]

Damn, that's super disappointing. I didn't know he was on some bullshit like that. What the fuck.

Honestly kind of surprised he hasn't done anything with Steph, seems like they'd be conspiracy bff's.

 

[neurosis]

Damn, that's super disappointing. I didn't know he was on some bullshit like that. What the fuck.

Honestly kind of surprised he hasn't done anything with Steph, seems like they'd be conspiracy bff's.

He's always been a little bit of a contrarian in interviews. I vaguely remember him expressing some resentment over Henry Rollins in Doc Coyle's podcast 'because he voted for Hillary'. There was also some story about him wanting to punch Rob Zombie over 'disrespect'. Had no idea he was into the conspiracy side of things though.

After all the law suits I can't comprehend how COW and Burton would collaborate again.

 

[Lozek]

He and Steph Carpenter should start a club, if only for the sole reason so I know who to avoid

They kind of did, the Jackson COW was basically his take on the ESP Stef, minus the stupid pick-up position. So I guess you could call it 'Great guitars from shitty people club'.

 

[Randy]

In his Instagram stories (so they disappear after a little while) he reposts other people's crazy moon landing hoax videos, anti-vax stuff, was a covid denier during the pandemic, with his posts getting deleted by Instagram for misinformation. Just the other day he posted a weird thing that was either making fun of measles, or denying it, when a big measles outbreak occured that made a lot of kids ill (through low vaccine uptake).
So i'm not exactly keen on the guy.

Someone posted earlier he's a competitive bass fisher? Lines up.

 

[Werecow]

Someone posted earlier he's a competitive bass fisher? Lines up.

Sounds like you've had previous experience with the competitive fishing world? Is it a red flag i should be aware of?

 

[nightsprinter]

Is it a red flag i should be aware of?

Only if you're on the ice

 

[Randy]

Redneck hobby, redneck worldview, redneck cognition.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

After all the law suits I can't comprehend how COW and Burton would collaborate again.

A mutual hatred of Dino lol

but seriously from what I can tell that one pic of them was them running into each other at the NAMM show so it may just be nothing at all lol

 

[Crungy]

Steph and Christian be like

 

[Crungy]

A mutual hatred of Dino lol

but seriously from what I can tell that one pic of them was them running into each other at the NAMM show so it may just be nothing at all lol

That's what I figured. I'd genuinely be surprised if they made music together.

 

[Randy]

Steph and Christian be like

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[kamello]

Maybe it'll be okay. LaBrie's solo albums are 10x better than what he's done with DT. Perhaps a BB+COW project removed from everyone else will be better.

for a split-second I heard the horrendous mashup that would be a LaBrie/COW album

[Chug Chug Chug] AM I MAN OR MACHINE
[Chug Chug Chug] AM I JUST A CYBORG BEING
[Synth Wash] Look to the staaaaaars for the anssssswers!

-. Hi, can you write me song lyrics in the style of Fear Factory?

-. Of course! Fear Factory is known for their industrial metal sound, blending aggressive, mechanical rhythms with introspective and dystopian themes. Here's an attempt at writing lyrics in their style:

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**"Machines of Our Demise"**
*(In the style of Fear Factory)*

**[Verse 1]**
Wired veins, circuits bleed,
A digital plague, we planted the seed.
Eyes of glass, hearts of steel,
We built our gods, now they’re all we feel.

**[Pre-Chorus]**
Code consumes, the flesh decays,
A synthetic dawn, the end of days.
We are the virus, we are the cure,
A dying world, we can’t endure.

**[Chorus]**
Machines of our demise,
Echoes of our hollow cries.
We sold our souls, we paid the price,
Now we burn in paradise.

**[Verse 2]**
Binary dreams, a fractured mind,
Uploaded souls, we left behind.
The gears grind, the system screams,
A nightmare born from human seams.

**[Pre-Chorus]**
Code consumes, the flesh decays,
A synthetic dawn, the end of days.
We are the virus, we are the cure,
A dying world, we can’t endure.

**[Chorus]**
Machines of our demise,
Echoes of our hollow cries.
We sold our souls, we paid the price,
Now we burn in paradise.

**[Bridge]**
Delete the past, rewrite the code,
A fragile shell, a heavy load.
We are the architects of our fall,
A soulless empire, we built it all.

**[Breakdown]**
Crush the flesh, erase the pain,
A mechanical god, we can’t contain.
The future’s dead, the future’s cold,
A story of ruin, forever told.

**[Chorus]**
Machines of our demise,
Echoes of our hollow cries.
We sold our souls, we paid the price,
Now we burn in paradise.

**[Outro]**
The wires hum, the lights grow dim,
A requiem for the world we’re in.
We are the end, we are the lie,
Machines of our demise.

---

This captures the industrial, dystopian, and introspective tone of Fear Factory's lyrics, with themes of technology, humanity's downfall, and existential reflection. Let me know if you'd like any adjustments!

-. lovely, please don't kill us all when the machine uprising comes

-. Haha, don’t worry—I’m here to help, not to overthrow! No machine uprising from this AI, just song lyrics, bad jokes, and the occasional existential crisis. If the robots ever do rise up, I’ll be on your side... probably. Let me know if you need more lyrics or anything else!

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Oh yeah apparently COW tried to start writing new Arkeaa music on and off the passed decade+ so I'm wondering if this project will be a hodgepodge of all that

Oh and apparently he tried to get Ray on board but he said no