Ceriatone Gargoyle incoming (Fortin Meshuggah)

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  1. Andromalia

    Andromalia Pardon my french

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    That thread is confusing as hell.
     
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    Shask SS.org Regular

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    That's typically when happens when the word Cameron is mentioned. :rofl:
     
  3. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    LOL ignore the other stuff, basically Ceriatone is building a Fortin Meshuggah clone with a couple changes to the circuit like adding a depth control and no NOS components
     
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    narad SS.org Regular

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    Are they the kind of place where you can just send them the NOS components or pay a bit more?
     
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    FourT6and2 SS.org Regular

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    I've heard of them using components if you send them in. But you'll have to ask.
     
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    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    Email Nik and ask, not sure. I know he has done alternate components for people but not sure about using user supplied stuff.

    :ninja:`d

    I also find it hilarious and so ss.org that with the bunch of cool new amps coming out the only thing getting attention is the one about a cheaper clone of a more expensive amp :rofl:
     
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  7. narad

    narad SS.org Regular

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    What are these cool new amps you speak of? Only thing catching my eye is the BE-100 Deluxe (and would be the XTC 25 if I didn't have the 20th already).

    And I sort of feel like if Mike's outsourcing his amp builds to existing shops, I'm a lot less motivated to pay Mike prices. Not that Metro is a bad shop at all or even any different from Mike's level, just sort of the principle of it.
     
  8. FourT6and2

    FourT6and2 SS.org Regular

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    Because would you rather pay $4K for a JCM800 clone or $1500? lol
     
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    FourT6and2 SS.org Regular

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    IMO, Ceriatone's actual build skills are better than Metro's. Ceriatone might be a cloner shop, but they can actually build a good amp and have good lead dress and solder work.
     
  10. oniduder

    oniduder HONKEY DONKEY

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    LOL cupholder guy, oh dear, it's surreal out there with the amp builders, womp womp
     
  11. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    The new BE100 variant, the XTC 25, the new Fortins, Hiwatt will probably have some new stuff and is actually all under the Hiwatt name again etc etc

    Surreal != cupholder guy... but I don't want to motivate the nut job I am talking about to sign up here :lol:
     
  12. oniduder

    oniduder HONKEY DONKEY

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    no no no no no i was not saying surreal is the cupholder master, i was trying to be clever and refer to both without conflating the two,

    blazing saddles is a good movie, some of the scenes are surreal!

    i guess i could have made two comments one about how surreal some christians can be? and how everyone drinks so much that i can't imagine not having a cupholder built into everything i own
     
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    lololol Blazing Saddles...
     
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    There's also a new Diezel and the Two Rock SSS!
     
  15. technomancer

    technomancer Gearus Pimptasticus Super Moderator

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    I actually missed the new Diezel, any info?
     
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    I think there was a VH4 clone (maybe single channel? I forget) years ago called the Cerberus, but it was either limited or wasn’t released.
     
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    Peter posted on Facebook and Rig Talk yesterday that they will have a new amp at NAMM. I assume it'll be the small amp they've been talking about. 20 something watts. Not sure what form it'll take, but I know it's went through a few different concepts.
     
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    You can ask for specific tweaks in the circuitry as well.
     
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    Up for this thread. It's close to production. Now named "Gargoyle"

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    Looks like 50 watts too. With a resonance knob.
     
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    It's nothing different from the Chupacabra with just a few component changes. Same amp. Not sure why he's bothering to release it as a "new" one. I bought a Meshuggah amp. It broke. I sent it in for repair. Fortin opted to refund me instead of sending the amp back. So I built a clone with some changes. I posted the schematic for that amp to the SLO Clone forum. Someone there sent the schematic to Ceriatone. Then Nik emailed me for help interpreting the schematic. Now you see this "Gargoyle" amp. The end. I told Nik a bunch of his "design choices" looked strange and unnecessary. Hopefully he made some updates. Otherwise this thing won't sound anything like a Meshuggah (or the amp I built). For example, he's running some "compliance" resistors in the clipping circuit to soften the effect of the diodes. So the amp won't sound as aggressive. But that was in the layout he sent me. I gave him some suggestions, hopefully he listened lol. He also seemed confused about how to implement the elevated heater mod. In the schematic it wasn't really put in the right place, but the people on the SLO Clone forum know what they're doing and it was just there for reference. Whereas he was following the schematic verbatim without really thinking things through. The voltage I had listed were also specific to the transformers I used. So hopefully he doesn't follow those to the letter...
     
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