Black Water Guitar Company

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  1. explosivo

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    Hi guys,

    I've spent the past few months stockpiling lumber and tooling up/prepping my new shop space, and now I'm finally ready to open the doors and start taking orders.

    I've got four prototypes in the works (two sixes, a baritone seven, and a fanned-fret eight) with a bunch of build progress pics that I'll post here when I get a chance (most of them are uploaded here).


    Check out the site and let me know what you guys think :)
    Black Water Guitars


    Thanks,
    Aaron.
     
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    That 7 looks really cool. Do you plan on selling the protos?
     
  3. explosivo

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    The seven and eight string prototypes will be for sale when completed. The single-cut six string is spoken for, and I'm keeping the neck-through six around for a shop guitar.
     
  4. Underworld

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    Could you talk us more about specs and prices?
     
  5. explosivo

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    Some specs? Sure.

    Carved-Top Seven
    Body: African mahogany w/ flame maple cap
    Neck: 5pc African mahogany/padauk/flame maple w/ scarf joint
    Fretboard: Wenge
    Headstock Plate: Wenge
    Scale Length: 27.00"
    Number of Frets: 24
    Construction: Bolt-on w/ threaded inserts and stainless bolts
    Electronics: SD Invader (bridge), generic (neck) - if sold, I'll install pickups of the buyer's choice (off-the-shelf SD's or Dimarzio's - or different pickups if provided by the buyer)
    Controls: 1 vol. 1 tone & pickup selector switch
    Tuners/bridge are generic units, and if sold, I'll install hardware of the buyer's choice.

    Price will be in the neighborhood of $1200-1500, depending on hardware/pickup choices.

    Fanned-Fret Eight
    Body: Padauk w/ wenge flat top
    Neck: Goncalo Alves
    Fretboard: East Indian Rosewood
    Headstock plate: Wenge
    Scale Lengths: 28.00" - 25.00", 7th fret parallel
    Number of Frets: 24
    Construction: Bolt-on w/threaded inserts and stainless bolts
    Electronics: Lace Deathbars
    Controls: 1 vol. 1 tone & pickup selector switch
    The bridge are some custom aluminum baseplates that I had cut on a waterjet with stainless steel Gotoh-style saddles

    Not sure on the pricing on this one yet. I'll have a more clear idea once it's complete, or at least closer to complete.


    But as far as custom pricing goes, it's going to be in the neighborhood of $1300 or so to start and then go up from there depending on the options.
     
  6. explosivo

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    Here are some pics of the eight string fanned fret:

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    Gluing the wenge laminate to the padauk body.


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    AutoCAD layout of the fretboard, to be used as reference while slotting the board.


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    Unclamped and trimmed to shape. I'm loving the wenge/padauk contrast.


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    Gluing up the scarf joint on the goncola alves neck.
     
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  7. MetalGravy

    MetalGravy Making a meat suit

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    The back of the neck on that sixer looks pretty flat. Am I seeing that right? Will the 7 and 8 have similar neck profiles? What is the radius on the 7 and 8?

    Those are some saxxy, saxxy axes!
     
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    Whoa... Will you be making ERGs like this? I love that upper horn. Reminds me of Claypool's basses. :yum:



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  9. Valennic

    Valennic Many Fingers

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    Sexy guitars man, and solid pricing. Careful not to get too overwhelmed with orders, with those prices you can expect a lot of inquiries :lol:

    Good luck with this, I'll check back in frequently to see some of your work :cheers:
     
  10. explosivo

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    The neck on the six is very thin (~0.750" at the first fret, 0.850" where it starts transitioning into the body), but it is round and feels really comfy in my hand. The seven and eight should have a relatively similar profile, but be a tad thicker.

    Radius is 12" on both the sixes and the seven. The eight string will get a flatter radius, something like a 16 or a 20.



    Haha, yeah. I'm a huge Primus fan and love the shape of Carl Thompson basses.

    I actually have been wanting to make another guitar in that style for myself for a while now (the spalted guitar in the header image is a better idea of the shape), and yeah, I'm totally willing to do that shape in extended ranges (the lower horn shape would actually suit ERGs really well).



    Thanks man :)

    I'm trying to walk that fine line between pricing that drives business off (too high) and pricing that drives me under (too low).
     
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    Wow, that single cut in the "Guitar Gallery" looks gorgeous!! Do you do/plan on offering a 7-string model of that with a possibility of fanned-fret?
     
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    Thanks :)

    And yes, I'll gladly build anything you see in the gallery with 6, 7, or 8 strings, straight scale or multi-scale.
     
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    @explosivo - Something like the one in the header is exactly what I had in mind actually.... YGPM
     
  14. explosivo

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    YGPM Back :)
     
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    I got some more work done on the prototypes this weekend.

    Eight-String
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    Extra bits glued on the headstock.

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    Removed most of the neck pocket material with a forstner bit.

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    The neck pocket, routed.

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    Laying out the pickup/bridge locations.

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    A nice, tight neck pocket and some big old routes for 4.5" wide Lace Alumitone Deathbars.

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    I'm personally a huge fan of the core wood showing through the cap wood at the forearm curve.

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    The body carves roughed out.

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    The heel carve, roughed out.

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    We're getting there... pretty sleek, but we can do better, right?

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    Not too shabby for a bolt-on neck heel, eh?
     
  16. explosivo

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    Six-string Single Cut
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    A nice, tight neck joint. Roughly a 2° angle for the non-recessed TOM style roller bridge.

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    All marked out for the top carve "stair-stepping"

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    Top carve roughed out.

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    Top carve all smoothed out and mocked up.
     
  17. explosivo

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    Baritone Seven-string
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    All mummified and ready to spray lacquer on the natural binding.

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    Dyed black.

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    Black dye sanded back and ready for color.
     
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    That 8-string is looking real good
     
  19. aWoodenShip

    aWoodenShip Great Job, Jeremy.

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    You and me both! Great work! And now I want it.
     
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    Just a heads up, it'll be for sale upon completion. ;)
     

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