Big Brass Block for Floyd? (7 string)

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  1. 0rimus

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    So I bought a Douglas Hadron 727 and have been slowing upgrading it over time.

    It came stock with what I assume (and hope) is the lowest derivative of Floyd Rose imaginable; which would make sense for a $200 guitar.

    Have any of you guys swapped the sustain/spring block on a Floyd before (whether it be 7 or 6 or 8 or... Any amount of string guitar)? Were there benefits? How much did it improve things?

    The current block in there is a flimsy little pot-metal sad thing. I found a 7 string enormous replacement brass block but for $40... I dunno.

    Guitar sounds fine as is, not hurting for tonal improvements

    Just wondering if it would be worth it or not. Thanks!
     
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    If it is just a cheap pot-metal Sustain block, the regular brass block would already be an improvement.

    Comparing the regular size brass block to the big size brass block, the big one will be a bit warmer, fuller sounding while the regular one will be snappier with a bit more attack.

    If you really like the guitar, i would probably save up the cash and get the original floyd rose if i was you.
     
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    Worth checking the screw pattern on the baseplate you have first to make sure an upgraded block will fit. If it’s a random licenced Floyd Rose, they may not be using the standard spacing.

    If it’s a Floyd Rose special, from what I remember, the 7-string version uses a different spacing than the OFR’s for some reason.
     
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    And the Korean 7 string Floyd Roses have different spacing. Maybe they've changed that now but I tried on two guirars that supposedly have Floyd Roses and should fit and the spacing was wider.
     
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    Yeah I had this issue with my jackson 7 with a floyd rose special - didn't fit the block I brought.
     
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    My MII Jackson (6 string) has a Floyd and I just put a Floyd Rose branded 37mm big block on it (weighs 6.6 oz). It shipped with a slim 32mm block of unknown metal that weighed about 3.5 ounces. The new block/springs are hitting the back plate when I pull up on the bar, so I decided to step down to a 32mm big block which should still be over 5.7 ounces. I was going to trim the tall block down but I'd didnt know if I'd have to drill new holes so I just bought the shorter one.

    It was actually pretty easy to swap (YouTube has some helpful videos) and I believe it was worth it. The guitar feels more resonant and closer to my fixed bridge guitars in terms of attack and sustain. It isn't a massive difference in sound but I perceive a fuller sound- that could just be because I feel it in my hands. It would be interesting to take a DI before and after and do a blind A/B. Some of the YouTube before and afters seem to show no difference and some appear to have a huge difference. My experience was in between, but I'll probably do a brass big block on any Floyds I get in the future. I can't see dropping $100 plus on tungsten or Stone and feeling it's worth it, but the $20-30 for brass seemed worth it if for nothing else but the feel.
     
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    I made this swap ages ago for the OFR7 in my Ibanez Universe (long story, don't ask).

    My recollection was more or less exactly what BrutalRob said - a little more midrange, a little fuller, slightly less pronounced attack. Not "better" or "worse," just different.

    If I were in your shoes, I'd swap out the whole trem if you can swing it - an OFR7 comes with a smaller brass block anyway, and is all around a sizable upgrade. Stud spacing is less of an issue for an OFR7 than a six since only one of the knife edges is curved, and the second, flat, knife edge gives you some more wiggle room.
     
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    Aw shite, thanks guys, totally overlooked the baseplate holes. Feel like there's a 90% chance they won't line up... But I might go for it anyway and drill new holes.

    I'm too stubborn to buy a new trem that'll cost more than the entire guitar. Plus I'm a weirdo and already replaced the stock saddles with 'speedloader' non-locking ones. No going back to that bridge locking codswollup now.

    This guitar balances the best out of all the ones I own; pretty much the only one my lame ass can play standing up.

    Stupid as it may sound, one reason I want the ginormous brass block is to shift the balance body-heavy ever so slightly lol
     

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