Anyone watching the big game tonight?

[Randy]

Now that the US has caused domestic and international markets to collapse, I think deals will now start being made. Of course, these deals will be between Europe and Asia, but Trump will be bigly responsible for these deals.

Yeah, this stuff about 50 countries on the phone looking to make deals comes across as far fetched.

He looks totally erratic and like he does nothing in good faith. As a country we pledged our support for Ukraine, a country that was illegally invaded and occupied by an enemy of the entire west for 80+ years, and in their very first meeting, Trump dressed the guy down infront of the entire world, took away his funding and his intelligence access.

If you negotiate with Trump on one of these tariffs, you gotta be thinking he can tear up your deal at any time or sell you out to your enemies.

 

[ArtDecade]

Trump is moving fast because he is trying to stay out in front of the courts and Congress, but at some point one of these pencil dick Republicans is going to have to make a stand and defy him.

 

[nightflameauto]

I think my favorite protest signs over the weekend were the "Ikea makes better cabinets" signs. Despite the cool weather, people actually came out to the protests here in town. I was surprised, honestly. This area is so staunchly red most of the time I figured it'd be hard to raise a crowd.

 

[spawnofthesith]

I think my favorite protest signs over the weekend were the "Ikea makes better cabinets" signs. Despite the cool weather, people actually came out to the protests here in town. I was surprised, honestly. This area is so staunchly red most of the time I figured it'd be hard to raise a crowd.

Bussed in by George Soros, obviously

 

[ArtDecade]

Republicans love thinking Soros is this mastermind evil billionaire that works in the shadows. Meanwhile, they are giving public hand jobs to Elon Musk - an actual evil billionaire.

 

[Crungy]

Republicans love thinking Soros is this mastermind evil billionaire that works in the shadows. Meanwhile, they are giving public hand jobs to Elon Musk - an actual evil billionaire.

Working in the open, going in dry with no one stopping him for some reason.

 

[HeHasTheJazzHands]

Lmao a fake Twitter account was spreading a fake rumor about the admin doing a 90 day pause on China tariffs and that actually fucking caused the stock market to briefly stop hemorrhaging

All because of a bullshit tweet

 

[spawnofthesith]

Republicans love thinking Soros is this mastermind evil billionaire that works in the shadows. Meanwhile, they are giving public hand jobs to Elon Musk - an actual evil billionaire.

Musk out billionaires Soros by 55x, you'd think he could pull off superior turnouts in his schemes especially with how public he is vs. all the alleged cloak and dagger with Soros

 

[Crungy]

Musk out billionaires Soros by 55x, you'd think he could pull off superior turnouts in his schemes especially with how public he is vs. all the alleged cloak and dagger with Soros

It's clearly because Soros is being controlled by Hunter... Follow the money sheeple!

Excuse me while I vomit on myself

 

[Crungy]

Speaking of dark money things, has this guy or others been getting traction on any of this?

Congressman Crow Introduces Bill to Fight Corruption, End Dark Money in Elections

WASHINGTON — Congressman Jason Crow (D-CO-06) has introduced new legislation to fight corruption and crack down on dark money influencing U.S. elections.

crow.house.gov

 

[ArtDecade]

 

[Drew]

This type of thing seems to be a Democrat staple. "We would have all the cards, except we lost a few on the way to the game."

Condolences for the brain cells that will die while you're forced to watch.

But at the same time, I think judging the Democrats on their performance, on things they didn't have the votes to actually implement, is certainly challenging, you know?

I think if you flip perspective and look at major Republican achievements during that time, when THEY had control of Congress, you have, what, a temporary tax cut for the 1% that raised taxes for most Americans? The issue here is the partisan divide in congress makes it awfully hard to do anything, and only one of the two parties actually cares about doing things.

 

[Drew]

I'm not even going to try to catch up on the last 20 or so pages, for now I just want to continue to reiterate that this is the stupidest recession ever.

 

[ArtDecade]

The courts have set a deadline for the return of the Maryland man mistakenly sent to El Salvador. The Trump administration is not arguing that the man was sent there in error. They are arguing that the Courts cannot force the Executive Branch to engage in foreign diplomacy and that by doing so would set a terrible precedent. One the one hand, Trump does not give two shits about the division of power and does whatever he wants. The simple fact is the courts became involved because he showed no interest in bringing the man back. On the other hand, I do not believe there has been a situation where a standing president can be ordered to engage with a foreign power. This is a strange one.

 

[wiretap]

I'm not even going to try to catch up on the last 20 or so pages, for now I just want to continue to reiterate that this is the stupidest recession ever.

Trump 2.0: More stupider

 

[ArtDecade]

Trump 2.0: More stupider

Idiocracy was intended to be a comedy, not a blueprint.

 

[Drew]

The courts have set a deadline for the return of the Maryland man mistakenly sent to El Salvador. The Trump administration is not arguing that the man was sent there in error. They are arguing that the Courts cannot force the Executive Branch to engage in foreign diplomacy and that by doing so would set a terrible precedent. One the one hand, Trump does not give two shits about the division of power and does whatever he wants. The simple fact is the courts became involved because he showed no interest in bringing the man back. On the other hand, I do not believe there has been a situation where a standing president can be ordered to engage with a foreign power. This is a strange one.

yeah, on one hand... the guy clearly was sent in error, his constitutional rights were clearly violated, and what the administration has done was unconscionable.

On the other... that's a tricky precedent to take up. I guess I think the most likely outcome is they let the lower court decision stand without comment and refuse to take up the case. Barring that... maybe some sort of meta decsion, about the legality of the extrajudicial deportations being where the issue was and faulting that, then in passing asking the administration to take every reasonable step to fix their mistake, which they won't do but...

 

[wiretap]

So what’s their best case scenario here? 5 years from now companies start manufacturing in the US? Jobs that are mostly automated or are in the process of being automated? Or hey let’s say they hire people, and we’ve reached a new “good ol days”, except those jobs don’t pay enough to provide people the ability to live like they did in the 50s and 60s.

I can see it now from the GOP after their voters realize American made shit is expensive because you have to pay people: “Fast food Factory work is supposed to be a teen job, you can’t expect to make a living flipping burgers switches”

 

[ArtDecade]

So what’s their best case scenario here? 5 years from now companies start manufacturing in the US? Jobs that are mostly automated or are in the process of being automated? Or hey let’s say they hire people, and we’ve reached a new “good ol days”, except those jobs don’t pay enough to provide people the ability to live like they did in the 50s and 60s.

I can see it now from the GOP after their voters realize American made shit is expensive because you have to pay people: “Fast food Factory work is supposed to be a teen job, you can’t expect to make a living flipping burgers switches”

Seems like Trump and Navarro want to gut the market and re-establish the gold standard. Make America 1970 Again.

 

[wankerness]

Point taken, yet the conservative messaging is effective at turning out the conservative vote or we wouldn’t be in the situation we’ve been in for the past nine years. So if it’s effective, is it truly dumb or just highly targeted?



If you sell now, you’re taking a loss. If you don’t need the money now, it’s probably better to hold, or even buy, now that prices are down.

Well, yes, I'd be taking a loss compared to a week ago. The concern here isn't "am I taking a loss now" it's "if I need cash in the next four years will I be taking a bigger loss now or then." It's sorta looking like signs point to "if you need cash during the Trump presidency, the time to sell was the last three months. The second best time is now cause we're nowhere close to the bottom."