Anyone watching the big game tonight?

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1) they really didn't expect Crawford to win
2) Imagine saying this when y'all were literally bribing people to vote for the republican judge lmao

EDIT: Holy shit they really DID think Elon was gonna win this for them


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A complete 180 from the presidential election lol
 

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1) Even at the time, there was a lot of public chatter about how important it was to include the Republicans in the ACA just so they could consider it a joint win. I know I've said it before and been roasted for it, but the ACA priced me out of health insurance. And while I *could* afford it today, 12k a year for a plan with a 12k deductible is sure financial suicide in the hopes it will block a maybe financial suicide. Fuck that shit. The fact the Democratic party is still holding this up as their biggest win in the past few decades is only adding to the aggravation here. It was literally the gateway to RAISING healthcare costs even faster than they had been rising, the exact opposite of the title, and the most political of political moves.

2) Schumer needs to get keister hoisted from the nearest flagpole and then dropped on his head. Booker I don't hate, and it'd be nice to see someone with his energy jump into a true power position, but something tells me the behind the scenes maneuvering will absolutely prevent that from happening. Based on the way the Democratic party has behaved over the last couple decades, I'd expect even if Schumer becomes untenable for the future, they'll find somebody equally spineless to replace him. Or maybe even more spineless, if that's possible.

To say I've lost faith in the Democratic party would be an absolute understatement.
 

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1) they really didn't expect Crawford to win
2) Imagine saying this when y'all were literally bribing people to vote for the republican judge lmao

EDIT: Holy shit they really DID think Elon was gonna win this for them


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A complete 180 from the presidential election lol

Bradley is a monster who believes that gay people deserve AIDS and that women are responsible for getting raped. She's also a partisan hack who thinks opposition politician's powers should be as limited as possible, while her team should be royalty.

She wouldn't even be on the Supreme Court of Wisconsin if fellow dipshit and hack Scott Walker didn't appoint her in the first place, her incumbency likely lead to her very narrow win in 2016.

Her term is up next year, so she's just throwing a tantrum since the writing is on the wall.
 

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@Drew
1) Even at the time, there was a lot of public chatter about how important it was to include the Republicans in the ACA just so they could consider it a joint win. I know I've said it before and been roasted for it, but the ACA priced me out of health insurance. And while I *could* afford it today, 12k a year for a plan with a 12k deductible is sure financial suicide in the hopes it will block a maybe financial suicide. Fuck that shit. The fact the Democratic party is still holding this up as their biggest win in the past few decades is only adding to the aggravation here. It was literally the gateway to RAISING healthcare costs even faster than they had been rising, the exact opposite of the title, and the most political of political moves.

2) Schumer needs to get keister hoisted from the nearest flagpole and then dropped on his head. Booker I don't hate, and it'd be nice to see someone with his energy jump into a true power position, but something tells me the behind the scenes maneuvering will absolutely prevent that from happening. Based on the way the Democratic party has behaved over the last couple decades, I'd expect even if Schumer becomes untenable for the future, they'll find somebody equally spineless to replace him. Or maybe even more spineless, if that's possible.

To say I've lost faith in the Democratic party would be an absolute understatement.
To be fair, the Democrats WERE prepared to go it alone when they had 60 seats, if necessary. It was only after Kennedy died that bipartisan work became necessary, and the public option - which would have done worlds to help with cost containment by forcing every for-profit option to remain competitive - died by the wayside. What you're pointing to is exactly what I mean when I said the Democrats haven't had "all the cards" since a short period of time at the start of the ACA process.

Insurance premiums didn't explode in Mass after Romneycare was passed - that bill was subject to far less partisan watering down than the ACA based on it was.
 

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1) they really didn't expect Crawford to win
2) Imagine saying this when y'all were literally bribing people to vote for the republican judge lmao

EDIT: Holy shit they really DID think Elon was gonna win this for them


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A complete 180 from the presidential election lol

Bradley thought how Crawford ran this was disgusting? I had those commercials bombarding me on TV and YouTube all the time. Don't recall anything disgusting about it.

I DO recall the ads for the other guy where the entire point of the commercial was the Orange Ass was supporting him and endorsing him. Those were obnoxious as hell.

Also recall the ad, again talking about Trump endorsing the other guy, where they have some woman saying something like "if she becomes a member of the Supreme Court, she's going to undo all the great things that he's (Trump) doing for this nation" or something similar. I would yell at the TV "What great things?".
 

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To be fair, the Democrats WERE prepared to go it alone when they had 60 seats, if necessary. It was only after Kennedy died that bipartisan work became necessary, and the public option - which would have done worlds to help with cost containment by forcing every for-profit option to remain competitive - died by the wayside. What you're pointing to is exactly what I mean when I said the Democrats haven't had "all the cards" since a short period of time at the start of the ACA process.

Insurance premiums didn't explode in Mass after Romneycare was passed - that bill was subject to far less partisan watering down than the ACA based on it was.
As I remember it, even before Kennedy's death there was a lot of "reaching across the aisle" talk during the ACA lead-up. To my mind, Democrats talking about reaching across the aisle has been their code for, "Fuck it, do whatever works for the donors" since the time of Reagan, about the time I woke up politically.

To be fair, this is a problem in national politics altogether when you first break it into only two "sides," then have one side fight like hell at even the smallest opportunity while painting the other as complete monsters, and the ones being painted as monsters only response is to say, "Well, you know, we'll wait for you to wake up from the hate haze friends." Gingrich turned the Republicans into rabid dogs, and the public apparently responds to rabid dogs. The Democrats play the game as if they still think they're dealing with reasonable people. Or people that will be reasonable if they're just patient enough. After thirty plus years of ever escalating stupidity and anger, it's not working. Perhaps fighting the bully is actually going to be necessary?
 

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As I remember it, even before Kennedy's death there was a lot of "reaching across the aisle" talk during the ACA lead-up. To my mind, Democrats talking about reaching across the aisle has been their code for, "Fuck it, do whatever works for the donors" since the time of Reagan, about the time I woke up politically.

To be fair, this is a problem in national politics altogether when you first break it into only two "sides," then have one side fight like hell at even the smallest opportunity while painting the other as complete monsters, and the ones being painted as monsters only response is to say, "Well, you know, we'll wait for you to wake up from the hate haze friends." Gingrich turned the Republicans into rabid dogs, and the public apparently responds to rabid dogs. The Democrats play the game as if they still think they're dealing with reasonable people. Or people that will be reasonable if they're just patient enough. After thirty plus years of ever escalating stupidity and anger, it's not working. Perhaps fighting the bully is actually going to be necessary?
I'll be honest and that this was all a long time ago - nearly 20 years. I do remember at least initial outreach on bipartisanship, in the hopes that they could bring on enough Republicans to paint this as a bipartisan acheivement, but that the primary reason for that was if it was seen as bipartisan, it would be a lot harder for GOP leadership (who was hell-bent on making Obama a one-term president at the time) to turn around and then start dismantling it as soon as Obama was out of office, whenever that was. I don't remember much offered in the way of compromise to get them on board, but that could be my memory more than reality.

Doing a quick wikipedia search, there's one thing I'm misremembering - Lieberman was actually the one who killed it, in 2009, as his vote (as an independent) was part of the 60 needed to override a filibuster. So, I guess technically speaking the Democrats didn't even have all the cards then.

Anyway, "Liberation Day" is going live here, Trump is waling out carrying a red MAGA hat, and I'm afraid I have to watch this fucker for work.
 

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I'll be honest and that this was all a long time ago - nearly 20 years. I do remember at least initial outreach on bipartisanship, in the hopes that they could bring on enough Republicans to paint this as a bipartisan acheivement, but that the primary reason for that was if it was seen as bipartisan, it would be a lot harder for GOP leadership (who was hell-bent on making Obama a one-term president at the time) to turn around and then start dismantling it as soon as Obama was out of office, whenever that was. I don't remember much offered in the way of compromise to get them on board, but that could be my memory more than reality.

Doing a quick wikipedia search, there's one thing I'm misremembering - Lieberman was actually the one who killed it, in 2009, as his vote (as an independent) was part of the 60 needed to override a filibuster. So, I guess technically speaking the Democrats didn't even have all the cards then.
This type of thing seems to be a Democrat staple. "We would have all the cards, except we lost a few on the way to the game."
Anyway, "Liberation Day" is going live here, Trump is waling out carrying a red MAGA hat, and I'm afraid I have to watch this fucker for work.
Condolences for the brain cells that will die while you're forced to watch.
 

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Here's a looks at some of the countries in Asia that appeared on his chart, alongside their new US tariff rates:

  • China - 34%
  • Vietnam - 46%
  • Taiwan - 32%
  • Japan - 24%
  • India - 26%
  • South Korea - 25%
  • Thailand - 36%
  • Malaysia - 24%
  • Cambodia - 49%
  • Bangladesh - 37%
  • Singapore - 10%
  • Philippines - 17%
  • Pakistan - 29%
  • Sri Lanka - 44%
  • Myanmar - 44%
  • Laos - 48%

    ROTFLOL... someone is really trying to fack it all up isnt he?

 

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I don't want to come across as being pro trump or pro tariff, but I am trying to understand why if universally "tariffs = bad" then why is the rest of the world seemingly charging such high tariffs on US goods?

I'm not an economist or educated at all on this sort of thing but I would like to understand. Obviously I understand the inherent and immediate negative impact of consumer goods going up due to this, but if this is being leveraged to reduce or eliminate tariffs other countries charge on US goods it almost seems to make. sense in an overarching long term way. Which I loathe to say so I'm hoping someone can slap some sense into me here.
 

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I don't want to come across as being pro trump or pro tariff, but I am trying to understand why if universally "tariffs = bad" then why is the rest of the world seemingly charging such high tariffs on US goods?

I'm not an economist or educated at all on this sort of thing but I would like to understand. Obviously I understand the inherent and immediate negative impact of consumer goods going up due to this, but if this is being leveraged to reduce or eliminate tariffs other countries charge on US goods it almost seems to make. sense in an overarching long term way. Which I loathe to say so I'm hoping someone can slap some sense into me here.
Targeted tariffs on specific goods, as opposed to broad tariffs on everything. We have targeted tariffs on Chinese EVs for example. General tariffs are less protectionary and more burn it all down in nature
 

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Targeted tariffs on specific goods, as opposed to broad tariffs on everything. We have targeted tariffs on Chinese EVs for example. General tariffs are less protectionary and more burn it all down in nature


So on his little comparison chart there, is he showing targeted tariffs from other nations that we’re “reciprocating” on everything?
 

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Supposedly the Chinese tariff listed above is in addition to the 20% he proposed earlier, so now it's actually 54% on Chinese goods, if true
 

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Is Musk even a nerd though?

Elon’s just a clever guy with great foresight and great luck who saw opportunity and took it and had it pay off for him.

How many actual nerds would let someone else near their online gaming accounts? Let alone actually play on them???!!!???

He probably pays other guys to paint his Warhammer miniatures for him too;)

Nerd? ROFL.
If that mother fucker starts dipping his prick in the Warhammer pool and spouting his bullshit I'm gonna shit on his doorstep.
 

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If that mother fucker starts dipping his prick in the Warhammer pool and spouting his bullshit I'm gonna shit on his doorstep.

I'll admit I've never actually attended a game but my overall impression is that the warhammer community is overpopulated by edgy war metal bros anyway
 
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