Any love for Floyd Rose Bridges?

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Got a satin chrome OFR for my latest build. Took a chance on this one, I’ve never seen anything other than chrome, nickel, black, or gold in person. Finish is flawless. I’m just so used to Floyds at this point, anything else on a strat just feels out of place to me now.
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This thing looks so gnarly, love it
 

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Most of my guitars have some type of floating bridge and most of my guitars have them. I even find them superior to hard tails due to tuning stability and string gauge changes and tuning changes. It might no be as immediate as a hard tail to do a drop tuning or even change strings if a string breaks but if you want to drastically change a tuning and a string gauge you don't need to change the nut like a you do in a hard tail.

My only problem after getting hard tails is that I prefer their sound more than Floyd equipped bridges! I'm not sure if it's the micro vibrations/wobble of the springs when playing a note or the intrinsic sound of the instrument or I've just been lucky with the hard tails I've had but my favorite sounds come from those instruments. Not that the Floyd equipped ones are bad, not by any chance, it's just that the hard tails I have an edge over them. Nothing that would be heard in a recording or playing live or with a band though. I've tried thick Floyd brass blocks on the ones I have Floyd's and only one of the guitars I liked the sound more. All the rest got their old blocks back. Great for E and D standard, too muddy for any tuning below that!
 

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I am in the love em camp. What is the best intonation key available for them right now?
 

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I kid you not there was this local music store i used to take my guitars in for setups because i was just starting out and didn’t know what i was doing and always had it drilled in my head that if i touched the truss rod the guitar would explode. 😂 the owner literally had a sign posted in huge letters “will not setup floyd rose guitars” 😂

I truly think it’s one of the biggest misconceptions that floyds are just these aneurysm inducing torture devices 😂
Intonation is kind of a pain, is the only real problem I have with them - otherwise they're definitely worth the additional small work.
Has anyone used the intonation tool Red Bishop sells?
 

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I am in the love em camp. What is the best intonation key available for them right now?

It dedepends on your needs. The Red Bishop "Accu-Locator" is great because it's very adjustable, so you can use it on multiple variants of double locking trems, not all, but not bad for ~$50.

The Ibanez "E-Jack" is priced similarly, and is nearly as flexible.

That said, the old "Key" is still like $15, so if you only have a single type of Floyd, it's hard to beat.
 

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Intonation is kind of a pain, is the only real problem I have with them - otherwise they're definitely worth the additional small work.
Has anyone used the intonation tool Red Bishop sells?
100% agree, that shit is so time consuming lol Also, having to relieve tension every time you want to adjust the action to avoid damaging the knife edges.....not sure if there is any truth to that or not. Tbh, i just keep the bar dived and then adjust the posts, haven't noticed any wear on my floyd from that method so far
 

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100% agree, that shit is so time consuming lol Also, having to relieve tension every time you want to adjust the action to avoid damaging the knife edges.....not sure if there is any truth to that or not. Tbh, i just keep the bar dived and then adjust the posts, haven't noticed any wear on my floyd from that method so far
bar dive and adjust is the same tension as leaving it as is... might as well not even bother. turning posts at full tension does no harm, and the factory/store you bought it from did exactly that
 
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100% agree, that shit is so time consuming lol Also, having to relieve tension every time you want to adjust the action to avoid damaging the knife edges.....not sure if there is any truth to that or not. Tbh, i just keep the bar dived and then adjust the posts, haven't noticed any wear on my floyd from that method so far

You're actually only relieving the string's tension, not the trem's/knife edges'... I've been adjusting the action at the bridge without that workout for 20+ years without any problem whatsoever...

... and I've been ninja'ed by @trem licking ...
 

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bar dive and adjust is the same tension as leaving it as is... might as well not even bother. turning posts at full tension does no harm, and the factory/store you bought it from did exactly that
You're actually only relieving the string's tension, not the trem's/knife edges'... I've been adjusting the action at the bridge without that workout for 20+ years without any problem whatsoever...

... and I've been ninja'ed by @trem licking ...
Oh nice! Good to know that i wont have to worry about that anymore, thanks for the input dudes
 

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As @trem licking and @odibrom stated, adjusting post height while up to tension is negligible with regards to wear on the pivot points - that idea persists due to the abundance of old licensed copies not using quality metals/hardened steel for their studs/knife edges and they would in fact get eaten up due to full-tension action adjustments over time. If you've got an OFR or Gotoh equivalent-level of build quality trem, no worries.

Having said all that, I 100% stand by Tom Anderson's idea of using dry teflon bike chain lubricant for any pivot points. Chapstick is alright but this stuff is inexpensive, does a 10x better job and doesn't hold debris/dust/ or gunk up your hardware.

...and again, somebody has to clarify why intonation adjustment is a pain. Even if you don't have the right tool (you should), decking the bridge and slacking the relevant string to adjust has never seemed overly cumbersome to me.
 

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leaving the tension on the strings/springs while adjusting height will damage the knife edges as you will apply a shearing force in addition to the usual tensile force. Though it will take a few adjustments to notice the damage. Also, lighter strings will have of course less tension so this also helps to prevent this.
 

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leaving the tension on the strings/springs while adjusting height will damage the knife edges as you will apply a shearing force in addition to the usual tensile force. Though it will take a few adjustments to notice the damage. Also, lighter strings will have of course less tension so this also helps to prevent this.
Nope
 

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bar dive and adjust is the same tension as leaving it as is... might as well not even bother. turning posts at full tension does no harm, and the factory/store you bought it from did exactly that
I've always wondered about your name. It's a strange fetish. :lol:

Agree with both points.
 


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