Another Megadeth Post of Ellefson.

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But the headlines of "Is Dave from Megadeth a paedophile" are not a good look, and the kinda of disrepute that is going to be a condition in most contracts. He was fired because that was the PR at the time.
Agreed. Megadeth is essentially a "brand" at this point with Dave attaching the name to beer, wine, and other things that he can sell or have people sell for him. The other dave is the 2nd name that people associate with Megadeth, so to have a PR black eye like this is bad for business. And whether or not the accusations are true or not, it's already out there and there's public perception that you either have to spend time mending, or you cut him loose and start with a clean slate.

The whole pedophile angle of it reminds me of this time I was in college, a few coworkers of mine were shooting the breeze in the break room.
Will: Hey, Gus, what's up with Static-X these days?
Gus: Uh...they're doing okay...
Me: You guys didn't hear? Their guitarist, Tripp Eisen, was arrested a few weeks ago for luring 15 year olds he'd met online into his bed. The band just fired his creepy ass. Guy's a total asshole.
Will: Gus, that's your cousin, right?
Gus: Yeah, let's not talk about Static-X right now.
*awkward silence*
 

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The girl was 19. Therefore not a minor therefore no reason to discuss Ellefson in the same breath as actual pedophiles. Also I dont think firing Ellefson had the desired effect. There isnt much distance between the two Daves as we’re all still talking about it.
 

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I find it funny how we're even discussing pedophilia because a guy who had a personal sex video leaked (not even with a minor, not even with she participating, and with consent). BUT suddendly everyone agrees is okay to sell your body at OnlyFans if you're Sonia Anubis (in this other thread)

Not that I give a damn about any of the two (and I'm in for anyone doing whatever the fuck they want with their bodies as long as everyone involved consents). But it's funny how agressively people judge some behaviours depending on their own prejudices.
 
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Although I won't reply on the Ellefson's stuff, I'm here to say that Kiko is probably in the current top 3 of mainstream guitarists together with Guthrie (unreachable first) and Bumblefoot
Not mainstream guitarist would include Rick Graham and Alex Hutchings
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But the headlines of "Is Dave from Megadeth a paedophile" are not a good look, and the kinda of disrepute that is going to be a condition in most contracts. He was fired because that was the PR at the time.
Yes...Dave is a pedo for jacking off with a grown woman. A simple google search would fix that...still..not a huge deal.
 

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Yes...Dave is a pedo for jacking off with a grown woman. A simple google search would fix that...still..not a huge deal.

Of course he is. Because NO ONE EVER masturbates with 19 year old girls. I mean, I'm sure that category doesn't even exists on porn websites. :lol:

And that exactly is the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about.
 

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I find it funny how we're even discussing pedophilia because a guy who had a personal sex video leaked (not even with a minor, not even with she participating, and with consent). BUT suddendly everyone agrees is okay to sell your body at OnlyFans if you're Sonia Anubis (in this other thread)

Not that I give a damn about any of the two (and I'm in for anyone doing whatever the fuck they want with their bodies as long as everyone involved consents). But it's funny how agressively people judge some behaviours depending on their own prejudices.
It reads the other way to me to be honest. A lot of support for Ellefson here, and a lot of shaming in the other thread.

Personally, Ellefson comes off as a creep and hypocrite. For the age difference and extramarital relationship as a pastor. If he first met her when she was an adult, great; Mustaine found his way to fire Ellefson.

Yes...Dave is a pedo for jacking off with a grown woman. A simple google search would fix that...still..not a huge deal.
Great job on the reading comprehension. Ellefson got fired because there was a big controversy and for a minute it looked like the girl might have been under age. Mustaine fired him because people don't do quick Google searches and they don't read articles; they read headlines.

The lead article for this thread is about Mustaine saying he can forgive Ellefson but won't have him in Megadeth because his actions look bad. Because people don't read articles.
 
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Of course he is. Because NO ONE EVER masturbates with 19 year old girls. I mean, I'm sure that category doesn't even exists on porn websites. :lol:

And that exactly is the kind of hypocrisy I was talking about.
Yeah this whole "We must protect da brand!" thing is fucking stupid. You can't bury what happened. The news clips will ALWAYS mention Megadeth...the bitch was grown..Ellefson had a private moment blasted to the world and his name dragged through the mud over nothing.
He's not some sheisty kid diddler. He's an old rockstar who played around with some chick.
I wish everyone would grow the fuck up and stop acting like it's some terrible thing when the lot of you are typing on cum stained keyboard/keypads as we speak.Him being a pastor has nothing to do with it. He's a man, people make mistakes and do things.

Definitely not the worst thing a pastor's ever done....
 

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I really don't get Ellefson's firing. So he whacked off with some girl on the internet..who cares? It's not like Megadeth is Backstreet Boys or something and such a thing would ruin their image. Who gives a shit what some grown man does in (what he thought) was private?
TBH I’d kinda assume most people in bands do shit like that, and probably a lot worse. I always thought he was the victim in this, being she was of age and consenting and it was her friend that exposed (get it?) the whole thing. The whole story seems super tame to me. Chuck Berry, anyone?


PS, Take is easy on Pee Wee. He’s a loner, a rebel. God I love that movie lol.
 
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TBH I’d kinda assume most people in bands do shit like that, and probably a lot worse. I always thought he was the victim in this, being she was of age and consenting and it was her friend that exposed (get it?) the whole thing. The whole story seems super tame to me. Chuck Berry, anyone?


PS, Take is easy on Pee Wee. He’s a loner, a rebel. God I love that movie lol.
Right. Chuck Berry out here peepee peeping and David Bowie running a damn middle school fuckhouse...but folks are worried about some grown ass man slapping his pecker around by himself to some girl on the internet.
 

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I wish everyone would grow the fuck up and stop acting like it's some terrible thing when the lot of you are typing on cum stained keyboard/keypads as we speak.

I actually Google'd "Cumstained" to check if there was a death metal band by that name, but surprisingly there isn't. C'mon, grab it while it lasts! :lol:
 

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I actually Google'd "Cumstained" to check if there was a death metal band by that name, but surprisingly there isn't. C'mon, grab it while it lasts! :lol:
Of course that's why you google'd it....for that limited research project. You checked google images just to be extra sure right? I'm gonna google it myself to check the thoroughness of your investigative skills.
 

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Marty Friedman and Chris Poland are my two favourite Megadeth guitarists by a long shot.
Can't really compare the two and say one is better than the other. Two totally different styles.
 

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Oh fuck, I forgot to mention my favorite Megadeth solo by Marty Friedman - Tornado of Souls!

Friedman still plays it lives with his band. This one is a gooder when the other guitarist plays it, Marty stops him and he's like "DUDE WHAT THE FUCK?! THAT'S MY SOLO!" then shreds the solo himself :lol:



That other guy plays with the current version of Ratt and he does a mean Warren.
 

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That other guy plays with the current version of Ratt and he does a mean Warren.
Yes, his name is Jordan Ziff and he's an absolute beast. Never heard of the guy until I saw him in Marty's band in Jacksonville. The other musicians that round out his band are from Japan and also put on an amazing show. Check out "Chargeeeeee" on drums.
 


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