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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by icos211, Feb 10, 2015.
Not sure if you're implying that I meant this because I didn't and I agree with your statement.
When I was younger I really hated the white stripes because I was super into technical wankery and music that used it. Now I have an appreciation for Jack White's riffs. Blue orchid is a great example. Essentially the same riff transposed up an octave and then he uses an octaver for both parts so it's like a crazy organ. It's a lot of fun to play. Same with sixteen saltines, that one is also really fun to play. He's got a ton of catchy riffs.
Writing super memorable riffs and not going overboard with the technicality is the perfect balance imo and popular metal bands like Gojira/Mastodon are really good at maintaining that balance.
if that doesn't get your foot tapping you're clearly dead.
100% backed. No one genre is superior to or better than another, it's all personal preferences and totally subjective. For some reason though, metal seems to attract these people the most, and the infighting over made up genres is absolutely pathetic. People harp on black metal for it, but every genre does it and the prog crowd is particularly bad about it.
No one cares that the band you're listening to is more brutal/heavier/prog/technical/whatever the fuck. Dylan from Daemoness is the embodiment of the persona and attitude I wish would just curl over and die already. "I'm more metal/kvlt/brutal than you" good for you. Shitting on Deafheaven for not being "trve metal" and making rap videos in the same breath does wonders for your credibility as a "trve metal" purveyor.
Edit: double post
That's how your comment reads though. You said you can't know something about a piece of music if you didn't write it. Feel free to clarify, but I dunno how else to interpret what you said.
I don't think that's true. If you deep dive into any genre, you'll find elitists.
I guess I used the words "soul" and "feeling" interchangeably to refer to the emotional load an artist may or may not put into their work. And the way I look at it, the audience can't know the amount(or the lack) of emotion the artist intended the piece of music to have unless the artist makes it clear.
Judging a song is one thing "this song is bad because X". And that's fine and you're allowed and often encouraged to do that.
But for example some comments I see on Sarah Longfields videos are just silly. She posts a video of some clean mid tempo tapping and gets comments like "that has soul" "that has feeling". Then she posts a video of some shredding and gets comments saying "That doesn't have any feeling!". What's the difference?
And my point is: how can the person commenting somehow know the amount of feeling an artist puts to their work? It's like saying "the singer meant Y with these lyrics" when in reality you have no idea what the singer meant unless he told you.
I'm getting carried away here and I hope I don't sound nitpicky but I'm wondering your word choices here. First you talk about judging a piece of music, which I agreed to since there is no real counter argument there. Judging as in "this song is bad". But in your reply I'm now quoting you talk about "knowing". Again I'm probably just getting tied up in the little details but just wanted to make myself clear.
Judging is valuing if the song is good or bad or something in between and anyone can do it. "You don't need to be a chef to know when a meal sucks" right?
But you can't say that "the chef didn't make this pie with love" if you don't actually know whether he did or not.
So, I know nobody will really care, and maybe this belongs in the why-are-you-mad or sad threads, but it's vaguely related to unpopular opinions-
Unfortunately, I can't really put this in less-vague terms... Someone, who is a sort of representative or face of a community I'm a part of has made a statement that I disagree with. But I'm stuck in a spot where I can't express my opposing opinion for fear of it being considered politically incorrect and having an impact on my job, since this community is closely tied to work. And it's frustrating. Part of me wants to say I should stand up for my opinion and not let the community speak for me. On the other hand, this is the age where disagreeing with someone on the internet gets you fired now. Soooooooooo......
Remember I said a while back that I don't like activism? I don't like activism. Thanks to activism, I can't take the risk of having the non-popular opinion.
Where I work, everybody reminds everybody else of every political opinion on a daily basis and no one has been fired over it, that I'm aware of. You should come over here for a while, but I guarantee you'll get sick of hearing it after a short while.
Unpopular opinion for this board, but probably not in general:
I think you should tune your guitars and basses to what sounds good, not tune as low as physically possible and then try to make it sound as less-bad as possible. I saw a band who tuned down to either D or Db. Their bass player was visibly annoyed with the chuggy parts where he was bashing his ultrasubsonic low D or Db string faster than the string was oscillating. It might have sounded great on the record, I don't know, but live, everything in those parts sounded like a loose bowel movement to me.
I'm not saying that there isn't a way to do this, but I'm simply of the opinion that if it doesn't sound good live, the way you are doing it, then tune up until it sounds okay, then go with that tuning.
And not to attack anyone here, but the threads with "which string gauge do I use to tune to Drop D an octave down on my bass?" kind of spearhead that. It's not just about which strings to use, etc., but I think the mindset of choosing a low tuning first then figuring out how to pull it off is completely backward.
I'm sure I would. I just find it super backwards that being in the sort of office environment in what's trying to be a very "progressive" industry results in basically an acceptably "correct" viewpoint on certain matters. What was said was basically something along the lines of "if you're of any influence in this industry and not an activist on 'our side' then you're part of the problem". It's my opinion that calling people part of a problem for not actively fighting is, in itself, a problem. That sort of divisive, us-vs-them thinking makes the community worse, not better, IMO. I can say that here, cause people here are pretty level headed, even if they disagree with me. I can't say that in a response to the original comment, cause I'll get torn a new one.
That's one of those manipulative tactics to get people doing what the speaker wants them to do, but then it is politics, after all. And it's not exclusively a the far right issue - all sides get bogged down in that just about equally.
I love the sound of ...And Justice For All. Almost has a bit of a black metal quality to the guitar and the cold production adds to that effect.
Creed has a couple of decent songs.
Dunno where you got the far right thing. There was nothing right-leaning about either their opinion or mine, as far as I can tell. But again, it's the whole "it's the left's fault" "it's the right's fault" "if you're not a feminist, you're against women" "if you're not with me 100% then you're the problem", etc. It's all political nonsense. I made no indication of a "side" but that's where the conversation turns anyway.
When we boil down everything into sides and teams, into the "good guys vs the bad guys", we make enemies of everyone who doesn't quite share our opinion. There are no sides, there are no teams, there are no clear dividing lines on every issue. People are complex, with varying positions and opinions and motivations goals, etc etc.
I'd sooner start a conversation about comparing salaries than one about politics at work. A company's management encouraging participation in a specific political cause is obnoxious. My company shills for some PAC every so often, and at least the only thing everyone across the political spectrum at my office agrees with is that they can stuff it.
In 2015, I went from a boss who was vehemently anti-Trump to one who was vehemently pro-Trump. Anti guy got fired, pro guy quit, and now there is a new boss who seems to not care nearly as much about telling everyone at work which political causes he supports or not.
All of the political stuff that started way back before anti-Trump guy was even living in the same state just keeps carrying on. It all started before me. We've had workers here run for public office in the past.
At first I thought it was very interesting that there was so much discussion of politics, yet everyone still got along famously. Honestly, the first time I detected any bitterness was this last primary season. Two Obama elections stayed quite amicable, in spite of a ton of disagreement.
Anyway, here's an unpopular opinion: soda is not disgusting in and of itself. It's only gross because companies make it 100x sweeter than it ought to be. Who wants to drink a bottle of carbonated syrup? Blech...
Good. Keep that shit at home.
is that an unpopular opinion? I actually still really like some of creed's music.
Popular opinion is that Creed unanimously sucks.
It's true... they do suck.