The "VS" Thread (Having trouble choosing between two or three guitars? Post here!)

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  1. MoonJelly

    MoonJelly brainless and deadly Contributor

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    Here's one for the pedal experts. Looking for a weird, left-of-center fuzz that plays well with doom, death, and thrashy stuff. I'm currently back and forth with an Old Blood Noise Haunt and a Lastgasp Gomorrah fuzz. The Gomorrah has some cool noise effects but I really like the spread of tones from the Haunt



     
  2. alex91

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    I've been searching for a guitar and I've come down to two options, at the same price: a Fender AV65 Strat (brand new) and a Gibson LP Traditional 2014 (Gibson Les Paul Traditional 120th Anniversary Standard

    https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br...ul-traditional-120th-anniversary-standard-_JM)


    I know it's an apples and oranges comparison, but I will try to explain my taste sound wise.


    My favorite band is Oasis, I love Rolling Stones (especially Mick Taylor's time), George Harrison, Tom Petty, Stone Roses, RHCP, The Animals, Beatles. I like Hendrix and Clapton, but I won't say I listen to them as much as I'd like to, although I'd like to change this. I love Little Wing, All Along the Watchtower and Cocaine.


    Overall, I'd say my favorite bands are Oasis, Rolling Stones and Stone Roses. I also should add that I will try to expand my blues and jazz taste/library when I get the guitar.


    Besides some Led.Zep, AC/DC and G'N'Roses songs, I'm not a big fan of hard rock and too noisy guitars.


    Anyway, I know this would probably mean the LP would fit me better, but I'd also love to play some clean ballad/calm songs like this:





    I should also add this will be my main guitar, but I will buy in the future another one. If I buy the Les Paul, I will sure later buy a Fender, but a cheaper one, like the MIM. If I buy the Fende, I'll surely later buy a LP, but it'll be a cheaper one, like an Epiphone.


    So, what do you think? I'm getting a little bit more towards the LP but I'm still unsure.


    Thank you.
     
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    J_Mac SS.org Regular

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    LP for sure!

    I have an LP studio and it's immense. They're heavy, mahogany body and maple top, but they can do big meaty sounds like the bands you mention as well as intricate stuff like Clapton. The Strat will limit your options tonally. If you want to crank out stuff like Oasis then LP is your only choice, the Fender will sound twangy. You are making the right call with a USA Gibson and a MIM strat. I would grab an LP off eBay for £450 ish like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gibson-Le...546748?hash=item2cc37159fc:g:Ni8AAOSwiQ9ZR6-F
     
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    Kodee_Kaos NegRep For Free Porn

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    I have one..

    Torn between a Kiesel Vader w/ Trem and a J-Custom RG. I like ss frets and the ergonomics of a headless, but I really like Ibanez trems and how nicely the frets are finished.. Seeing as I've never played a Vader I have no idea what to expect from the trem or neck..
     
  5. bostjan

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    The J Custom RG will have plenty of ergonomic features as well.

    The key question, I believe, is whether you are thinking of buying an existing Kiesel or custom ordering one. Kiesel's customer service has been in the spotlight frequently, lately, and for all of the wrong reasons. If you are not dealing with Kiesel over the course of a build, though, it shouldn't be much of an issue, either way.
     
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    For what you're doing, def an LP style. If you want Strat-ish sound you can always wire for coil taps(emphasis on ish). Though I must say that the unfinished necks on a Strat feel smoother to me than the glossy Gibson necks. Also as a side note, I have to say the G&L Strats are nice if you want a legit Strat down the road.


    I have to disagree. I've played some LP studios and didn't find them to be that great... If you get a Studio then anticipate a fret job and probably a new nut. In that price range one can pick up a used LTD Eclipse that will outperform(imo) the LP Studio. Sorry if I made this more difficult :D
     
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    At this time Kiesel's with trems are very very rare on the used market. The build I want will be around $1800usd.

    Unfortunately Ibanez doesn't make a headless(yet?). If I could get a headless Ibanez then it would be a done deal.
     
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    If you don't absolutely love the guitar, and go to resell it, your $1800 new Ibanez will probably fetch $1200-1400, while your $1800 Kiesel will be lucky to get you $1000 in resale. If you keep your guitar forever, it won't matter, but honestly, will you keep it forever? What if Ibanez makes a headless RG with SS frets in 2018 or 2020 or whenever?

    I guess my general thought is if you are going to go full custom, you might as well go all in and come to terms with losing all of your money if you decide to sell. If you are buying something that is not 100% what you absolutely want, you should consider the resale value and factor that into your decision.

    Make a list of pro's and con's. You might not even pick the one with the most pro's or least con's, but it can help visualize the information better.
     
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    Pulled the trigger on a Vader V6x..HSH, Maple/Alder with Swamp Ash top. Tung oil neck, SS frets..Sales guy was knowledgeable and friendly. Although Escondido isn't a long drive for me. Might be a factor :p
     
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    Definatly go with an old Universe, IMO they cant be touched by any mass produced 7 thats out today. The K7 is seriously nice too though, i guess it would depend on the type of sound your going for, but all i can say is the Old UV necks are unbeatable.
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    Definatly go with an old Universe, IMO they cant be touched by any mass produced 7 thats out today. The K7 is seriously nice too though, i guess it would depend on the type of sound your going for, but all i can say is the Old UV necks are unbeatable.
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    Hello all.
    Getting back to guitar after a long break (during which there was a lot of weight lifting). Apparently my hands have gotten bigger? Can't play my Ibanez (Rg550 ressiue, Wizard 17mm neck) without getting annoying pain in my left hand the next day. Need a new guitar if I want to play and I've decided to go back to 7 strings for my next guitar.

    The guitar will constantly be in Drop A tuning. I MIGHT rarely if ever go standard but I don't want to factor that in. For lower tunings I have a Digitech Drop.

    Requirements: Not a super-thin neck. The most comfortable neck I've played recently was an E2 Eclipse. 20mm at first fret. Could definitely go a bit thinner but not 17mm thin. Fixed bridge. No preference on scale length but definitely no shorter than 25.5.

    Budget is preferably no more than $1200, but can push it up to $1500. Very open to other suggestions too, in case I missed something. I've narrowed it down to 4 options, in order of preference:

    1) Schecter KM7 (mk-1): 90% sold on this one.

    2) Schecter KM7 mk-2: Really like the upgrades over the mk-1 but can't get over how much more I like the aesthetics of the mk-1.

    3) Jackson Pro HT7 with a pickup change: Seriously this guitar is gorgeous. A downgrade from KM7 but with the extra cash, there's freedom to pick whichever pickups I want. I haven't had a chance to try one though, and can't seem to find any info on neck dimensions and thickness.

    4) Ibanez RG752WMFX: Pricey but can order from IbanezRules so I'll know I'm getting a good set-up and check-up.

    Sorry for the long post. Appreciate any input! Thanks for reading.
     
  13. MoonJelly

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    Def get the KM-7 if you want the neck to be more beefy. The white satin MK I would be my drug of choice, personally :2c:
     
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    VM HH Jaguar and upgrading the neck to a warmoth modern compound radius Jag/stang neck later, pups, bridge, etc. = 220-400 for guitar, 267 for neck

    Old MIJ Dinky of some sort = 200-300

    AX1220 or AXS32 = 200-350

    USA Peavey (Firenza, T-60, Patriot, etc) ~400
     

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