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Discussion in 'Sevenstring Guitars' started by Leviathus, Feb 1, 2017.
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I fine myself really wanting to get a Swirl lately, but I’m not super knowledgeable on Ibanez. Can anyone here offer some advice? Are there any versions to stay away from or specifically seek out? Any that may have thicker necks than others? (I had Silver Dot a while back with a super thin neck I didn’t find particularly comfortable, but I’m sure I could get used to it if they’re all like that.) Are the most recent reissues as good as any? Those seem to be the easiest to get a hold of since they’re still sitting around unsold - although it looks like some retailers have finally started dropping the price some. Thanks for any info anyone has!
Swirl UV's are all high quality Japanese Ibbys, the earlier 90s ones (made from 90-93 or somewhere around there) were made in the Fujigen shop while the recent reissues (the 25th anniversaries and the uv77re's) were made in the Sugi custom shop which Ibanez uses for the "limited" collector type guitars. The most sought after swirls are the "ATD"s (About Time Designs) swirled by Darren Johansen, the swirl-guitar OG. At the end of the day it comes down to if you vibe with a particular specimen maaaaaan, and ya feel the mojo maaaaannn....
Appreciate the info! Value wise, can the older ones be had in the same ballpark as the recent reissues?
I'd say yes. I think they range in the 3-8k range depending on condition and quality of the swirl, though i'm not the most knowledgeable about what they sell for recently and they certainly don't come up for sale too often. I'd suggest maybe making a thread on Jemsite with these sort of questions, plenty of knowledgeable folks over there that are into this sort of stuff (ie: Rich from Ibanezrules and others).
Just a note, the original MCs can be split into two groups: ATDs which were swirled by Darren in his shop, and MKRs (Mustard Ketchup Relish) which were Swirled in Japan.
They tend to look very different.
Here's an ATD:
And here is an MKR (Also referred to as "Japanese Swirls"):
Prices fluctuate for both, but typically MKRs go for between 50% and 70% the price of the more sought after ATDs.
Ah cool -- never knew, but definitely noticed this pattern of looking awesome or looking yellow.
The MKRs can vary wildly. Some are super unique. Most are pretty "meh", but every now and then an oddball pops up.
I think I'd take a really unique MKR over a standard ATD.
I'll see about getting some pictures up from one of my old hard drives to give some examples.
I really like the MKR look - that’s probably what I’ll keep my eye out for. Then again, I like pretty much all of them other than the mostly orange ones from the recent reissues. I also really like the light blue/pink ones from the recent reissue, and those seem to be the easiest to find that dealers still haven’t sold. Thanks again to everyone for the info.
And then there are these swirls:
UV77RE, for sale in Japan on ebay for $7k if anyone wants.
The Reissues came out great!
If you get a chance, Rich has a huge gallery of them. Tons of variations, which is sort of the point.
If you ever wonder what makes a swirl really special, if you can remember a specific pattern, it's a keeper.
i couldn't agree more! There are ones that others love and have paid a premium for and that i would have considered having refinished (if there were still anyone out these who did swirls these days) and others that people have passed on that I had wished I'd been able to afford at the time. The other thing is to get up to date pic, not for bumps and scratches but more than anything for fade. The pinks go white (and the purples go brown on the PMC JEMs), so what once upon a time might have been amazing guitars, are now bleached out and look very different!
My UV7DNA Custom (UV7BK '90 original)
After having this guitar many years in its original state with enough wear due to its first owner, I have decided to restore and customize my UV.
I can't be happier with the result
Dude! the green dot MC!!
So is! the DNA/Green Dot concept has been in my head over the years, luckily it's already a reality.
That DNA turned out freaking great!
^ can't say more ! Big congrats, it looks awesome !