Officer Mohamed Noor fatal shooting of Justine Damond

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  1. Mike

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    I would hope it was just a negligent discharge or something, where an overly twitchy cop blasted someone. That's probably the best case scenario imo.
     
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    He shot across his partner out of the car multiple times to hit a woman in her PJ's. I think negligent is out the fucking window.
     
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    Crazy. Story is getting a lot of attention in Australia.
     
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    yeah I was gonna say that.

    its def top of the news here today
     
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    The story is getting legs here too, partly because no one seems to have any idea why it happened. The two cops had their body cams off, too, which is a violation of department policy and problematic.
     
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    I heard it's not against policy if they're in their vehicle? Like I'm not sure you can drive around all day with a tiny portable camera going, would need to change battery like 10 times. Maybe they have to turn it on when responding?
     
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    Cars record all the time, not optional. This footage is mysteriously "not available" either.

    What we have here is willful destruction of evidence. And probably on the job drug usage (reason for bad shoot).
     
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    The Minneapolis Police Department’s Policy and Procedure manual says that any use of force requires the camera’s activation. If things change quickly and the officer is too busy, he or she should activate the camera “as soon as it is safe to do so,” according to the manual.
    I'm really bothered by the description saying he shot her from inside the squad car. That screams negligent discharge or some other manner of fuckery.
     
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    It's unfortunate to have happened... but I'm not sure what there is to discuss about it. Seems like there's no detail out there yet.
     
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    Still no details available. It's probably bad taste to speculate, but, it is certainly safe to say that there is no fucking way that the gun accidentally slipped out of the officer's holster and into his hand, aimed at the woman, and accidentally fired several times. Also, one of few facts we know is that the woman was shot about twenty minutes before the shooting was reported. 20 minutes is an eternity for a bunch of adrenaline pumping.
     
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    Over a week now, and, although there have been some side-stories, we have virtually zero information from investigators as to what the hell happened.
     
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    ME stated she was shot once, in the abdomen. not multiple times.
     
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    Police reports say she died of a single gunshot to the abdomen, but only that the officer shot "at least once."

    Closest we have to an update is the "loud sound" the officers heard is alleged to be Damond "slapping" the back of the car before she approached. No word as to why she did so - I could see it as an attempt to get their attention before walking up tot he window so as not to startle them, but also as a hostile action. That wouldn't really justify shooting her, of course.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/us/minneapolis-police-shooting-slap/index.html

    It's a weird story, the near-total lack of detail is weird, and the silence of the Blue Lives Matter folk is a little striking, as well.
     
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    Has the ME's report even been made available, though?

    Also, even if she was struck once, but multiple shots were fired, how could it be accidental?

    And why on Earth is there no statement from anyone involved? By now, if the prosecutor is not going to proceed in pursuing charges against Noor, there should be some explanation. This is unacceptable on so many levels.
     
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    one of the articles in the OP mentioned the medical examiner ruling "cause of death as homicide due to single shot to the abdomen".
     
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    Not to put words in bostjan's mouth or anything, but I think his bigger point was that considering the gun allegedly went off several times, it seems very unlikely that it was an accidental mis-fire. The fact that only one of those bullets hit the victim doesn't really change that; it looks like the shooter made an intentional decision to pull his trigger multiple times.
     
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    The officer has made some sort of statement offering his condolences to the victim, but that's about it so far.
     

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