NAD: Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 (finally settled on a Marshall)

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  1. Guitarjon

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    Finally got a Marshall that I'm happy with!

    This journey for the perfect Marshall started about 6 months ago when I decided to order a DSL100HR.
    That amp wasn't too bad but it had some strange noise issues and the gain felt too compressed to me so I had to send it back.

    Then last week I got a DSL20HR since they were super cheap at a local music store (299 euros).
    I really enjoyed the sounds I got from that amp but it was also a very noisy amp.
    I brought it back to the store to get a replacement but then I saw a JCM 2000 DSL 50 sitting there.
    Used of course but in great condition.
    It used to belong to a well known dutch backline rental service so I imagine they took good care of it.
    I came in a very sturdy hardshell case with a Marshall logo on it so that's not bad.
    I got it for 499 so the price wasn't too bad either.

    Upon plugging it in I quickly noticed that this is the Marshall for me!
    It's a super versatile amp!
    I have a bunch of other amps, Mesa's, Oranges etc and those are all very good at rock and metal but I had to get a Marshall for that classic sound.
    Really satisfied in that departement.

    The clean channel is nice and chimey and the dirt channels are very good indeed.
    Sure, with high gain this amp isn't super tight but a boost pedal into a Marshall was NEVER a bad idea imho.
    The tone shaping options are really nice.
    I find myself using the 'deep' switch on higher gain sounds often because of the MEAT but for clean tones I prefer to have that off.

    I'm running it into my Load box with IR's so it's a quite flexible setup.

    Anyway, if you see one of these used for a good price, snatch that!
    Well worth the money and like I said, it's a super versatile amp!

    I made a little demo with my new Tele, hope you don't mind me sharing that here:


    JCM 2000 owners rejoice! ;)
     
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    I'd hate to add more to your list... But try a JVM and a Valvestate (8200, 8100, VS100). I think you'll dig the fuck out of those.
     
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    Sure, a JVM would be cool one day to add to the collection, not going to lie.
    Those valvestate amps though, not so sure...
    Why do you recommend those?
    I think I saw a crushing demo of one of those with Fredrik from Meshuggah though, sounded huge!
     
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    The JVM is a crunch machine. Tighter and more aggressive than the DSL. Problem is that it can get really compressed and noisy, but for brutal metal, it's one of my favorites.

    The Valvestates are really great high-gain heads. I really miss my 8100. They're super tight, super aggressive, and just... yeah. I fucking loved the 8100. And yeah, Fredrik used the 8200 for the first Meshuggah album and live in their rig until they switched to Line 6 PODs. Oh and Chuck Schuldiner, who used one since 1993.

    If you like Static X, Wayne Static used a VS100 for the first 2 (or 3) Static X albums.
     
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    Ok ok, that does sound interesting indeed!
    For now I'll have to calm that GAS down because I have bought too many amps in the past 6 months or so.
     
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    Yes, I can tell. :lol:

    I imagine in Euroland you can run into Valvestates for cheap, though. Just a thought in case you run into one.

    Avoid the AVT like the plague.
     
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    Oh alrighty then ;)
     
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    Man, you CANT mention the 8100 without one of the most classic examples!

     
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    I feel dumb because Tommy Victor is my idol. :lol:

    But yeah their tone isn't for everyone, but Prong is the band that got me into the 8100. So good.
     
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    That sounds pretty brutal!
     
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    For 8100, I always think of James Murphy's playing on Disincarnate's 1993 Dreams of the Carrion Kind:



    A long time ago I read an interview with James where he said he borrowed the amp from Bill Steer, so it's plausible Carcass used one on Heartwork or Necroticism – Descanting the Insalubrious:


     
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    IIRC the majority of Heartwork was a 5150 into a frankenstein cabinet.

    Oh and also, if you wanna boost your Marshall, try an SD-1. For some reason, I find Marshalls LOVE the Super Overdrive.
     
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    A bit of googling establishes you have a fine memory for the frankenstein cabinet. It also seems to suggests it was a combination of a 5150, a Marshall 30th Anniversary head, and a valvestate micro stack rather than an 8100, for Heartwork.

    Anyway, apologies to the OP for that off-topic. Your Marshall JCM 2000 DSL 50 sounds excellent, and I enjoyed your playing.
     
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    Yeah, there's some actual Marshall in the album as well. But listening to Heartwork, that sounds mostly like 5150 to me. The 6100 and Micro Stack were probably for overdubs.
     
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    I just picked up an early 2000 DSL100 too for $300.

    Seriously I LOVE the Clean (Green Channel) with the "crunch" engaged and I run an SD1 as a clean boost and it's seriously fantastic. The green channel has that wall of sound or huge wide spread sound thing going.

    These amps are terribly unreliable and the EQ is tricky. I run mine as follows. Deep switch engaged, treble on #2, Mid #3, Bass max, scope disengaged. Have to use the sd1 if you max the bass.

    I've owned a lot of cool and great amps, rivera tre, nearly all fryette flagship amps, mesa, orange thunderverb 200, rockerverb 100 and 50, etc and my girlfriend flat out said this sounds best. Haha yes, my gf. but regardless this amp does sound great.

    I change out the V1 preamp tube with a 12ax7 or 12au7 just to mess around with gain structure and I like the 12au7.

    I don't care for the ultra channel, it loses a lot of it's chiseled punch definition that you do get on the green channel. I basically run it as a single channel amp. Also, running all JJ's, which makes it darker in a good way.

    People are missing out on an amp that really sounds awesome, but comes across like a traditional vanilla marshall if you've not spent time with it.
     
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    I have never owned an SD1 but you'd recommend one?
    Is it more of a boost pedal like a TS or does it have more gain?
     
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    same circuit as a TS except for the clipping and some cap value wich makes it more aggressive than a TS
     
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    You seem to have been bitten by the tube amp bug. Careful, it can be terminal (to your wallet).
     
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    I know!
    I'm now 12 amps in!
    It's a LOT of fun though ;)
     
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    Wow, more than I thought you had. I’ve seen your recent Mesa NGD’s but I didn’t know you were 12 in.

    Totally agree though, I was digital modelling only for a long time, but then I got a house where I had room for amps and the ability to turn them up. It’s just a totally different experience.
     
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