Is Trump really gonna get there ?

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  1. bostjan

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    Or, maybe, since Trump is "not [Putin's] bride," he will meet with unfortunate accident, and become replaced by comrade Mikhail Eduardovich Pensky, much better party representative who opposes LGBT civil rights, immigration, health care reform, and is in favour of war, the patriot act, and wrote this paper about climate change:

    The above quote was from 2001, but, in fairness, his attitude toward climate change has not budged since then. Also, the claim that, in 2001, "the eart is actually cooler today than it was about 50 years ago" is...well, to misquote Nickelback: "Look at this ... graph"

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    Pretty easy to visually compare 2000 versus 1950.

    As for "China ... would never enter into the restrictions in the treaty..." They did, in 2016, just months before Trump and Pence backed out of it.

    The fact that someone can be proven flat-out wrong on so many points and yet still stick to his guns is somehow seen by his supporters as commendable, but we need to disengage from the en vogue practice of believing that if we keep lying to ourselves, we will somehow shape reality.
     
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    Fixed that for you. :lol:
     
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    Listen, man, that just proves how honest he is. He speaks from his heart, and from his convictions. He tells it as he sees it, he doesn't focus group test his beliefs. And if he gets them wrong once or twice, whatever, at least when he speaks you know he's saying what he believes, and he's not gonna say one thing and then do the other. Anyone telling you otherwise is just pitching you fake news, man.
     
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    Is there any truth to the reports I'm seeing this morning that Trump threatened to destroy North Korea to the United Nations? If so, WTF? If he's really going to destroy NK, then why not just do it instead of getting them all fired up and give them the excuse to fire off all of their warheads first. And if not, then the same applies twofold.
     
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    "The true purpose of the president is not to wield power but to divert attention from those who do..."

    And who can do that better? :lol:

    But seriously I think I can survive 4 years of this guy worst case. I survived almost a decade of Dubya
     
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    Does he strike you've an intelligent man?
     
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    I keep telling myself that this president is better than GWB, at least in a couple of ways.
    I really don't think either are that great at logic, though.

    The guy in the cubicle next to me is now listening to Trump's speech about the Marshall plan and the USA's commitment to the UN. So far, it actually sounds measured and well-spoken. One of his key phrases actually kind of echoes your quote. He hasn't gotten to the part about destroying other nations, though. :lol:
     
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    Yeah, there is. To his, ahem, small credit, he did say it in the context to the US defending themselves in response to a North Korean act of war, so he didn't add anything new to the picture - we've pretty much known that if it comes to war with North Korea, we were going to obliterate them in one way or another. However, it certainly isn't going to help de-escalate the situation.

    He also repeated his claims that the Iran nuclear deal was "one of the worst, most one-sided deals in American history," and that "the problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that it has been faithfully implemented," which he paused for several seconds afterwards, and was met with stony silence.

    The speech was written by Stephen Miller, which was probably a poor choice.
     
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    Interestingly enough, my office neighbour's video edited out all of the statements that were reported, or else it just happened to be obviously edited and Trump didn't say that stuff, but I have no reason to believe that is true.

    It did seem like he paused a few times, expecting applause and getting none. Maybe I misinterpreted that.
     
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    Coincidentally enough as I was replying to this CNBC re-ran some of the "highlights" from his speech, so the last two were transcribed word-for-word (I'd actually missed part of his remarks on Iran the first time around, but was at my desk for the Venezuela comment).
     
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    Good thing we have a president who isn't afraid to use weapons of mass distraction!
     
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    In other news, Clinton has refused to rule out contesting the outcome of the 2016 election if clear evidence of Russian interference to an extent greater than now believed emerges, in the investigation:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/hillary-clinton-2016-trump/index.html

    As a liberal who supports rule of law, I'll merely say this - the bar for whether or not such a challenge makes sense to proceed is, to me, very, very, VERY high. I think you'd need clear and incontrovertible evidence that Russia had successfully changed the tabulation of counted votes in such a way as to change the outcome, and even then we'd be in totally unprecedented legal territory.

    I really hope we don't get to that point.
     
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