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Discussion in 'Standard Guitars' started by Sogradde, Nov 6, 2018.
Yes you're right, my bad, common sense has left me for today. Edited.
the xv is dope. I was legit considering getting one for a while there. it's like a sleeker hondo death dagger/sting.
I was fucking furious at those 507's being US only, would have got two in a heartbeat.
One with shipping from an available region would have probably been better than the price on one downunda.
Getting a hold of one was the issue. Even guys in the US struggled getting a hold of them, the production numbers were really low. I've found a couple in Japan before however that was post-CITES (and getting stuff out of Japan was difficult before CITES, it's even harder now).
Not sure who was having problems getting them over here. Not only did I see two out in the wild go months without being sold, but GC/MF was blowing them out at $400 at the end.
The timing was really bad on them. They came out after Ibanez already decided to pretty much axe the X Series, and take the Iceman back to its roots. The year before we lost the Xiphos too.
Honestly, you didn't miss much. The quality was pretty hit or miss on these and they were heavy and awkward to play, which is a bummer since the 6-string Icemen were fairly solid.
I don't know how long I've been waiting for an 8-string multiscale Prestige offering from Ibanez, really want to upgrade from the Agile haha.
Oh the pain of being addicted to the Wizard neck...
Yikes wizard 8 string 12th paralle. I think you can replicate this by just taking your fretting hand and smashing the entire thing into the nearest wall.
Hahaha, yeah they should move the neutral point to around 7th or 8th fret for sure. Only if the Strandberg wasn't so expensive...
The wood isn't as dry nor as good/old as it used to be, each year I've seeing the woods get greener and greener, I had a 2013 RG752 next to a 2018 RG752 the other day and the difference is staggering. Its honestly to the point now where I don't think I'll buy a new Ibanez again as the maple quality even on the prestiges now is pretty crap.
It's not just Ibanez either, noticed similar trend on most brands sub $1500-$2000.
We dont know where Fujigen gets their wood stock from, but if it was gotten anywhere in western japan (anywhere from Osaka to Kagoshima basically), there have been torrential floods the past 2-3 years in those areas, thanks to typhoons combined with the rainy season jet streams. There's not a whole lot you can do when nature is involved dude, especially the absolute insane levels of rain seen in Oita/Fukuoka and Hiroshima in the last 2 years. if that means you wont buy MIJ ibanezes, realizing they might need a tune up because mother nature decided to take a massive shit all over this country, then dont buy any, it'll leave more for the rest of us.
Oh and let's not forget that Hokkaido, last year, got hit with a 6.8 or something earthquake right in the middle of their rainy season, which caused massive mudslides all over the mountains and hillsides up there, and then they were met with even more rain AFTER the quake as well. If you're not gonna support Japanese workers because of coloring of wood, then you're just heartless.
So idk if it was the fan or what, but I played that 8 string rosewood FB ibanez with the fanned fretboard and let me tell you, it was kind of awful and I don’t mean quality.
Basically felt like the fan was “extreme”. This was my first time touching a fan in person so I don’t have much experience. But the low notes were super far apart as where the high strings.
I always imagined fans would feel kind of slight. I did only play it for a couple of minutes but I was like “I don’t think I could play scales on this OR low string power chords...”.
Maybe it’s my smaller hands? Idk. Just wasn’t impressed and made me second guess ordering a 7 string fan from GOC last month.
Seriously it wasn’t build quality or anything like that, just not sure about the fan.
I purchased an Ormsby AND a GOC so imagine my concern lol
Especially on the Ormsby since they have one of the widest fans
Ok we can be scared together.
The Ibanez Prestige i was looking actually has maple fretboard. Should we just avoid maple Ibanez?
Nah dude, IMHO, between all the fanned frets, Ibanez got the least favorable design. Ormsby's a little extreme but I didn't feel it weird in a seven string.
I believe GOC has a fan similar to that of Strandberg, which IMO is the best one for 8 string guitars, but well, to each his own.
I hope you like your guitars!
There's probably the problem.
As a proponent of fanned frets, I often explain that it's not like reinventing the instrument and your playing, but there definitely is an adjustment period.
Not to mention there are still tons of factors involved.
I wouldn't use this short time with a single guitar dissuade you from other fanned guitars or basses.
The ormsbys are pretty comfy. I was skeptical when I bought the first one but it felt really go, even for stupid stretched out extended chords.
The ibby multiscales are fine imo (newer versions are much comfier)
The LTD multiscales are quite solid (I really liked the 6 string multiscale a looot).
The jackson multiscales are solid as well (the blue sparkle 7 string was a blast to play and I almost bought one at GC).
Honestly the parallel fret location isn't a huge deal so long as you're not doing stupidly stretched out extended chords. If you are going to do more of those, then yeah, the ibby one is the worst of the lot (the others are better for that kind of stuff). If you just want to play br00tz, all of them are good.
We're living in a golden age boys, one where you can walk into a guitar center and grab a production line multiscale ERG off the wall instead of having to get a custom or an agile (nothing wrong with agiles imo).
As someone who owns one of these fanned Ibanii, no- it's not just your hands.
The other guys are right that the newer ones aren't as bad, and mine is a 6 so the issues were probably much more noticable on the 8, but the fan design that Ibanez uses is just not optimal, and toward either extreme end of the board, you can feel it. The spacing is just...bad.
That said though, it does grow on you, and since mine is a 6 and I'm just playing bruutz on it anyway, I love it. Don't think I'd recommend an 8 string variant, though.
Okay I'm glad I'm not alone. My Kiesel Vader Multiscale 7 feels awesome, but when I tried an Ibanez 7 string multiscale, it was almost unplayable to me. It just felt extremely weird and the spacing felt huge.