do you guys include the bar ?

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  1. mongey

    mongey SS.org Regular

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    so I'm back in the gym doing some weights after a long hiatus .I used go to a few times a week in the late 90's to lift

    back then it was considered wrong to include the bar in your stats like bench press , but chatted to a couple young dudes yesterday in the gym and they all include the bar.

    my goal for the first 3 months was to get back to benching 80kg ,and I'm putting 60kg weight on for my 2 peak sets now, so if I include the bar I am already over my 3 month goal 9 weeks in , so that's cool I guess. kinda feel like its cheating though
     
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    Blytheryn Musical Adam West

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    You always include the bar? Like a 100KG bench press is the bar, and 40KG’s on each side.

    Definitely not cheating. The bar weighs 20KG’s!
     
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    mongey SS.org Regular

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    cool

    back in the day no one did. maybe it was just the gym I went to ?
     
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    Did you go to a gym that didn’t have any bars?

    Yes, always include the bar.
     
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    KnightBrolaire 8 string hoarder

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    yeah, you always include the bar. weight is weight. That would throw off your totals if you don't include the bar :nuts:
     
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    I never included the bar since it was the tool that helped me lift, not necessarily WHAT/how much I was lifting :shrug: I also never had a clue what weight my gym's bars were, so I was 5/10lbs off at most, so nothing worth losing sleep over
     
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    KnightBrolaire 8 string hoarder

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    uhh depending on the straight bar you use (some are 9kg and some are 20kg) it could throw your numbers off. They are pretty easy to tell apart though.
     
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    mongey SS.org Regular

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    good to see i'm not the only weirdo

    end of the day it doesn't really matter unless your competing
     
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    I guess it doesn't really matter, so long as it's consistent. But I've always included the bar, too.
     
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    The bar is weight you are holding in your hands (or on your back or whatever) and moving. Why on earth wouldn't you include it?

    If you're doing any sort of competitive lifting the weight of the bar is absolutely included in your lift.
     
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    I've been powerlifting (and bodybuilding) for almost 30 years. You always include the bar. I've never heard different. But make sure it's the correct weight. Those lil curl bars are often only 15 lbs lol. The tough one is when you use free-weight machines, such as hammer strength or smith machines. Usually you have to find the sticker that says what the mechanical arms/levers weigh. And if the smith machine has pulley supports it can throw off the true free weight or at least the negative/concentric portion of the lift.
     
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    Hollowway's Rule's of Weights and Measures. "Enhancing your life since 1996."
    1) When measuring weights, always include the bar.
    2) When measuring your Johnson, never include the nutsack.
     

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