What I should have said is that I hope Vogg ACTUALLY IS innocent of ALL charges -- including "looking the other way" which I agree is extremely punishable. I have to admit, I've had trouble listening to any of their material since this surfaced. I can't really enjoy it knowing that one of my favorite bands might have (and probably did) engaged in this BS. I just can't excuse rape. I can forgive murder before that, oddly enough. I guess my comment earlier was just to voice my small glimmer of hope that at least Vogg might not have been involved.