Alternate Between Tunings with Trem

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  1. bmth4111

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    Hello,

    Is there a trem system which has the capabilities of a Floyd rose but that will allow me to change tunings on the fly. I know some trems like on strats can just be tuned but they seem to go out of tune since they aren't locked into place by a locking nut. Is there a trem that possibly locks but can be unlocked easily for quick tuning changes live.
     
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    I’m not sure if any trem fits that description, but you know what does?

    Another guitar! :lol: You just stumbled upon an excellent excuse to buy another guitar. If you’re married, telling the wife that you need another guitar to have a different tuning is a waaaay better excuse than, “but I don’t have a purple guitar...”
     
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    If only...

    For mechanical detuning, you're looking at either a Steinberger trans-trem, a tremel-no, or Floyd D-Tuna. The first two require the trem to be locked into a hardtail mode, whereas the last only allows for dropping your E string to a D.

    Digital re-tunings, such as in a Variax or Roland GR setup, accomplish "the dream" - but hearing the real tuning of your physical strings spoils the illusion.
     
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    The tremol-no uses screws to lock the trem in place, so you can only change string tension so much before that friction fails. The D-tuna only works with a dive only setup. Going with transpose effects would be the best bet. I'm more of a fan of just buying more guitars :)
     
  5. bostjan

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    There are trems that lock and unlock on the fly...as in Parker Fly, for one. :lol: Epiphone also made a guitar with a (Schaller?) bridge that could lock and unlock with various modes, similar to the Parker bridge.

    As far as being able to change tunings quickly - it is physically impossible if your bridge is floating. Meaning that a free-floating guitar set up for E standard will necessarily go bonkers out of whack if you change to D standard. The forces on a floating trem all have to balance. If you remove 100 N from the strings, you have to remove 100 N also from the restoring springs, and there is no system in existence that can do that. If you have a surface mount (dive-only) bridge, it will work, but only to some small extent.

    I'm afraid your only viable solution is another guitar.
     
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    Ya I was wondering if this would just be a case of wanting something that is unattainable. But how would two dtunas work on the 7 and 6th string to change between GCGCFAD, GDGCFAD, ADGCFAD.
     
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    they'd have to somehow be in sync or else one dtuna would throw off the other one.
     
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    Didn't you already ask this in another thread?

    You could have custom D-tunas built, since they only work on an E string around .46-.52 gauge and starting at near E tuning. You would also need to have either a fixed bridge or dive only trem like EVH. D-tunas are not recommended for floating trems, because a change in tension will pull the other strings flat.
     
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    Trans-Trem.
     
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    or you could do like me and get a digitech Drop pedal. Best money I have spend ever
     
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    Getting a dive-only blocker installed will allow you to retune without having to balance the springs. How does less than 5 minutes sound?

    Heck, if the fine tuners are setup correctly, you can drop tune without even unlocking the nut.
     
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    +1. It still didn't stop me from buying multiple guitars for different tunings though:lol:
     
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