27" scale w/ trem OR multiscale w/ no trem?

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  1. starbelly

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    Hi all,

    I've long been considering getting a 7-string, and I'm looking into eventually getting a Kiesel Vader 7. However, I'm stuck deciding between a 27" scale Vader with the newer Hipshot trem, or a multiscale Vader without the trem.

    I've always wanted a guitar with a trem, but I've heard that multiscale is the way to go.

    Are the benefits of a multiscale guitar so great that you should go without a trem?

    Any feedback would be great greatly appreciated!
     
  2. ThePIGI King

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    Personal preference really.

    Do you really want to be able to vibrato and flutter? If so, get the trem. Fanned guitars are beneficial primarily if you don't want to sacrifice the shorter scale for the higher strings to acheive the longer scale for your lower strings. I play on 8's without a fan and am very satisfied with the tone and tension, and I'd mod it for a trem if I had the available funds.

    To each their own.
     
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    You can have both with Strandberg, multiscale AND trem... just saying... never actually played one.
     
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    Yeah, seems like a Strandberg would do it. Otherwise, I'd probably just do straight 27" and trem. The fans I've played have been surprisingly comfortable and natural feeling. But 27" isn't uncomfortable and when you need a trem, you need a trem.
     
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    Damn, the more I think about it, the less I think I need a trem haha. Nonetheless I'll look into the Strandbergs!
     
  6. trem licking

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    a trem is gonna offer you way more benefits than a fan will. fans are only necessary when you go to extremes like 10 string guitars and super super low tunings. a fan is definitely not necessary on a 7 unless you know for a fact you like how they play ergonomically.
     
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    You can do both things though.
     
  8. starbelly

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    Good point. I suppose I'd need to try them out first.
     
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    I should have specified: I'm looking into a Kiesel Vader, and the multi scale version doesn't have a tremolo option. The Strandbergs do, but they seem quite a bit more expensive.
     
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    Just FYI, last I heard, Kiesel won't do the 27" scale with a trem. I think Jeff said if someone wanted to pony up for the programming charge on one he'd make it, and then add the option, but I don't think anyone's taken him up on that yet. Call to be sure.

    Personally I greatly prefer multiscale on a 7 for the extra tension on the low string, but I also really like the tone and feel a trem adds, so I tend to just stick to 6s, but it's a highly personal choice.
     
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    Ah I see. I saw that getting a trem AND a 27" scale length was an option.

    Now I'm focusing my attention as to whether I should go for the lithium pickups (of which there are many mixed reviews), to the Holdsworth ones.
     
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    Strandbergs have a pretty miserably small fan on their 7-string model though and that's how they make the trem possible. For a 7-string 27" on the low B string is perfect.

    I would go multiscale over trem every time.
     
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    I *believe* Strandbergs is only 25.5-26.25 on the 7. It's only 25-25.5 on the 6 string.
     

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